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21-08-2023, 03:24 PM | #1 | ||
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We purchased this 3 years ago from a Ford Dealer knowing it was a Demo with 2,500 klms, still under factory warranty, turns out the car has had a rear end accident before we purchased it, is this something the dealer should have advised before purchase? do we have any recourse on the dealer at all? Haven't bought it to the dealers attention as yet, just curious how to proceed.
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21-08-2023, 04:48 PM | #2 | |||
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Also depends on what type of damage, I'd have a talk with them especially if the repaired damage is going to have ongoing concerns Last edited by Itsme; 21-08-2023 at 04:54 PM. |
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21-08-2023, 04:58 PM | #3 | ||
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If its taken you 3 years for it to become an issue it obviously isn't really an issue is it?
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21-08-2023, 05:21 PM | #4 | ||
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yes, as it affects it's resale value
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21-08-2023, 05:40 PM | #5 | ||
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I've known dealers repairing brand new vehicles with aftermarket parts, unbeknownst to the purchaser.
If it's a repairable write off I'm pretty sure they have to mention it. I imagine if you confront them they'll just deny knowing anything.
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21-08-2023, 06:19 PM | #6 | ||
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21-08-2023, 07:28 PM | #7 | ||
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Morally wrong, but unless it was a repairable write off and reported as such it isn't illegal for them not to tell you.
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22-08-2023, 08:29 AM | #8 | ||
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How did you find out after 3 years?
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22-08-2023, 09:58 AM | #9 | |||
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We picked up a ex-demo Pajero Sport, I drove it from the dealer in brissy back to Rockhampton and half way into the trip I went to fuel up. Start to put fuel in it and next thing you know the fuel is pouring out onto the ground. I think take the inner wheel guard off and low and behold the fuel filler was not connected to the tank! I think get it home and follow up and they said they had some vandals in the area stealing fuel and that would be it. I then pushed them for a longer warranty period given I was worried about injector life and got that. So....the other month I install a HD tow bar on it, well, what a sag that was. The local Mitsu dealer installed and there was a rattle..exhaust was touching the mount. So I took it back and said fit it, they took days then got back to be and apparently the exhaust was out of alignment! A deeper look and at some point the car must of had a hit on the rear and it was fixed but they didnt align the exhaust and reconnect the filler pipe! (my assumption). So now I also have some contact with the driveshaft when we go over very deep/long bumps so I need to get that looked at. I am freakin furious because it only had 13,000kms and I did a check on it and nothing on the register. Given we have had it for 5 years I a not sure if I have a leg to stand on but I will follow it up next week. But we had no idea until I put that HD tow bar on, otherwise it drives perfect but if I cant tow properly then that defeats the purpose of the car.
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22-08-2023, 12:37 PM | #10 | ||
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Look at it another way
The vehicle must be roadworthy at the point of sale for the dealer. This should be supplied at the time of sale. If there are safety issues, then this casts doubt on the person giving the roadworthy certificate. A check on your state govmint website may give you some more info. Rather than relying on the warranty issue, it may be more fruitful to threaten that you will report them for issuing a dodgy roadworthy. I'm not a lawyer, I am just a big-noting smartarse. |
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23-08-2023, 02:10 PM | #11 | ||
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This should have been picked up by you or someone else upon pickup of the vehicle, before even driving it off. Repairs are usually pretty easy to spot, even just from the outside. 3 years on is a bit of an ask IMO.
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23-08-2023, 11:05 PM | #12 | ||
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24-08-2023, 12:12 AM | #13 | ||
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Plenty of people buy cars that have had accident repairs done. I've sold cars that have had accident repairs done. I've bought cars that have had accident repairs done.
As long as the car is roadworthy there is no obligation to disclose the history of the car, unless its a repaired write off or such like.
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24-08-2023, 01:52 AM | #14 | ||
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My XB GT coupe has bog in the driver's side rear quarter. Prior owner didn't tell me. I'm livid!
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24-08-2023, 10:25 AM | #15 | ||
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24-08-2023, 10:50 AM | #16 | |||
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Edit: Ooops..Forgot to explain, the M3 had rear rhs quarter panel repair that he picked up immediately. |
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24-08-2023, 11:12 AM | #17 | |||
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24-08-2023, 12:14 PM | #18 | |||
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24-08-2023, 01:07 PM | #19 | |||
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At the other end of the scale, you have repairs that are obvious, have been shoddily executed and/or are down right shonky. In this case, a reduction in asking price over a non-repaired vehicle would be expected and probably reasonable. So, with that in mind, back to the OP's post. If the repair has been carried out professionally, and has no impact on the roadworthiness of the vehicle, does it warrant a price reduction? Extra warranty? What if it was repaired as a result of being transported here? Does that make a difference? Tough one, IMHO. I really don't think it's black or white. At the end of the day, if the repair is professional, doesn't result in the vehicle being considered unroadworthy (not that I have much faith in that system alone), and don't have an impact on the cost of ownership (ie doesn't impact on sale price or cause additional maintenance costs over the life of the vehicle) then I think it's time to enjoy the ownership of the vehicle and move on.
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