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Old 27-03-2013, 02:34 AM   #1
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Default Falcon was world's 512th best sellling car in 2012

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2013/...elling-models/

What's interesting is to look around there and see which affordable mass-market cars will see a second generation with similar numbers. MX-5, B-Max and Land Rover Defender, among few others. The rest seem like niche, unpopular or old tooling. Why I thought this would be relevant, is because it offers a big picture look at how much longer Falcon can continue to be a business case. Taken as a whole, Falcon and Territory appear to have the combined numbers to be feasible for a while yet you'd think.
Commodore is #384 and beats the Lexus IS, among a few others.
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Old 27-03-2013, 02:51 AM   #2
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Interesting stuff.
Big lol at the bottom of the list: Great Wall Coolbear. Some oddball names for cars that's for sure!
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Old 27-03-2013, 04:33 AM   #3
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4 Toyota Camry 797,466
5 Ford F-Series 785,028
37 Ford Escape/Kuga 403,841
60 Nissan Qashqai/Dualis 298,066
156 Ford Ranger 137,347
227 Ford Mustang 91,580
233 Ford Taurus 87,457
435 Toyota 86 31,109
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Old 27-03-2013, 06:03 AM   #4
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Default Re: Falcon was world's 512th best sellling car in 2012

I'm surprised nobody has highlighted the impressive result of the Focus. Or that as many Territorys are sold as the famous Land Rover Defender worldwide.
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Default Re: Falcon was world's 512th best sellling car in 2012

All I have to say is potential sales figures for a Global RWD/AWD platform from last year:

Ford Explorer 194,349
Ford Mustang 91,580
Ford Taurus 87,457
Ford Flex 32,290
Ford Falcon 21,267
Ford Territory 16,412
Ford Crown Victoria 9,451
Lincoln MKS 13,146
Lincoln MKT 7,880
Lincoln Town Car 1,223

Total 475055

Do it Ford, if you can't no one can!

(I have left out all suitable Mercury sales from last year but they would only add to the numbers. Obviously the Panther sales are for discontinued models, but they still sold...)
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Or that as many Territorys are sold as the famous Land Rover Defender worldwide.
Interesting pickup there. Puts a new perspective on the journo carry-on about Territory and Falcon. Also:

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Old 27-03-2013, 03:29 PM   #7
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falcons only a bit below half way down the list, not bad considering it`s only sold here and against massive competition.
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Old 27-03-2013, 05:09 PM   #9
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360,000 Mazda 3 sold worldwide. This means we are buying around 10% of the total output.
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Old 27-03-2013, 11:09 PM   #10
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Noticed that the Vauxhall VXR8 has sold only 5. Isn't that the rebadged HSV? Looks like they might need a helping hand from the Holden marketing team
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Old 29-03-2013, 02:43 PM   #11
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falcon only approx 300 less than the nissan patrol, worldwide? and only 2000 less than the BMW X6 worldwide?

i like this one, falcon sells 3000 more vehicles than the Audi TT, worldwide...

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now if only the federal govt listened to one of their own (Steve Bracks) and learnt about the Free trade agreements that they shouldn't have signed with Thailand and Malaysia, and you'd possibly see the falc and terry start selling there too./rant
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You should standardise the values based on the population each model is sold to, in order to get a more appropriate number.
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There were also 10,000 Chev Caprices, 1500 Buick Park Avenus and 700 Chev Luminas, which are also some rear wheel drive Aussie cars.

You start to realise perhaps Ford and Holden have a real oppurtunity to make global RWD cars.
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Old 29-03-2013, 03:55 PM   #14
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#20 - Wuling Sunshine!!!! Ugly mini van looking thing that has a badge like a flying bat.

#40 - Wuling Rongguang/Chevrolet N300, the bigger brother of the Sunshine.. also wears a bow tie in certain markets it seems...

#55 - Wuling Hongguang - the twin brother to the Rongguand that got the better DNA...

The Lada Niva is still being made! And that also wears a bow tie in certain markets.

The fake Mazda BT-50 (JMC Tiger) sells more than the real one.

The fake Nissan Pulsar (Cowin E5) is outsold by the real one by a factor of 5.

Very surprised at how low on the list the i30 was, and was very impressed at where the Focus was. To be honest if I didn't see the list I would have assumed it was the other way around.

There is a car model called King Kong?????

Not all badge engineered cars have been grouped together, ie the Suzuki SX4 and the Fiat Sedici are one and the same, yet have different listings.

That DR2 thinggo is a re-badged Cherry... hardly worth a mention, that Aston Martin Zagato on the other hand...

Is there space for the Bantam in our local lineup I wonder?

That list really opens your eyes to the amount of badge engineered cars there are in the world, and the amount of design cues the Chinese are borrowing from the established brands.

Would have been a hard list to put together.
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There were also 10,000 Chev Caprices, 1500 Buick Park Avenus and 700 Chev Luminas, which are also some rear wheel drive Aussie cars.

You start to realise perhaps Ford and Holden have a real oppurtunity to make global RWD cars.
That is a nice export qty Holden has build here.. Lets hope they are making some money from it.


Also what is a Ford Fusion (EUROPE) that sold 10,469??
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That is a nice export qty Holden has build here.. Lets hope they are making some money from it.


Also what is a Ford Fusion (EUROPE) that sold 10,469??
It's like a tall Fiesta wagon, saw them in Russia.
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Also what is a Ford Fusion (EUROPE) that sold 10,469??

Yeah that's a minivan type thing.
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I'm surprised nobody has highlighted the impressive result of the Focus. Or that as many Territorys are sold as the famous Land Rover Defender worldwide.
So your saying Ford build cars other than Falcons
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I'm not surprised the Corolla got top spot again worldwide. They're a great car...certainly better than the bland Camry and Aurion...
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It's like a tall Fiesta wagon, saw them in Russia.
Thanks.

It does go to show how separate the Global business units where once operating that the same name was used for 2 completely different types of cars. They surely have come along way under "One Ford"!!
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So your saying Ford build cars other than Falcons
That's built by the Falcon Motor Company isn't it?
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Interesting to note that if you count the Jetta as a Golf with a boot, then the Golf is the highest selling car by a fair margin. Is the Jetta still basically a booted Golf?
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Interesting to note that if you count the Jetta as a Golf with a boot, then the Golf is the highest selling car by a fair margin. Is the Jetta still basically a booted Golf?
I believe the Jetta runs on a shortened Passat platform now, as opposed to an extended Golf platform.... but in saying that who really knows
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