Who would win in a quarter mile?

[SVT8]

last night we were at one of those pitstop kebab places, and were wondering who would win in a quarter mile. Since we dont have no money to go down to calder we got into a big arguement about it. These are the cars:

EB II Fairmont Ghia 6cyl 148kw
EB I Fairmont V8 165kw
VS Calais 6cyl 147kw
EF Futura Classic 6cyl 157kw

all are auto and most are stock except for my fairmont v8 with an exhaust kit and el gt air intake. These are the factors to take into consideration. The ghia is lighter then the v8 has an lsd diff and 1 more kw than the calais. The v8 is the heaviest but has raw power. The calais would be the lightest (im guessing, dont know much about the VS). And the futura has more power than the Calais and Ghia but is lighter than V8.

[FalconXR6]

Originally Posted by SVT8

last night we were at one of those pitstop kebab places, and were wondering who would win in a quarter mile. Since we dont have no money to go down to calder we got into a big arguement about it. These are the cars:

EB II Fairmont Ghia 6cyl 148kw
EB I Fairmont V8 165kw
VS Calais 6cyl 147kw
EF Futura Classic 6cyl 157kw

all are auto and most are stock except for my fairmont v8 with an exhaust kit and el gt air intake. These are the factors to take into consideration. The ghia is lighter then the v8 has an lsd diff and 1 more kw than the calais. The v8 is the heaviest but has raw power. The calais would be the lightest (im guessing, dont know much about the VS). And the futura has more power than the Calais and Ghia but is lighter than V8.

My money would be on the Calais to about 60, after that, the V8 mont and I6 Futura would catch it and take to it...

For the 400 metre sprint, my money would be on the V8 Mont...just...closely followed by the Futura...

[Joes_meat]

The VS is definately the lightest. Has the shortest first gear - which will help acceleration. But 0-100 times are pretty rubbish in VS's. Just can't seem to put any real power down until second gear. (I would know - I've got one.)

I agree with FalconXR6, your V8 first, the EF then the VS and the EB would finish eventually.

[Kenaz]

Originally Posted by Joes_meat

The VS is definately the lightest. Has the shortest first gear - which will help acceleration. But 0-100 times are pretty rubbish in VS's. Just can't seem to put any real power down until second gear. (I would know - I've got one.)

I disagree. VS V6s die in the **** when they hit second. I too would know because I used to own one and have been a passenger in plenty of others.

For the record I think the EB V8 would win. My EL Ghia V8 did 15.8 stock and 15.5 with a cheap 2.5" cats back. My old VS Berlina did 16.0 with HM extractors, 2.5" exhaust, SS Inductions CAI kit and K&N filter in 5 deg temp. My EL did those above times in 30+deg heat.

[EFFANATIC]

Go the v8 without a question, i remember when i was sad owneer a vs v6 and my old man had a ebxr8, the v6 has got poke 1st but they do die in the *** in 2nd like kenaz said ,the v8 wouldnt leave the v6 with ease after getting traction, since then he got au3xr8220, and i decided 2 go inl6 and save for turbo.

Plus my old vs pulled 106 rwkw with a few mods including exhaust.

[FalconXR6]

Originally Posted by EFFANATIC

Go the v8 without a question, i remember when i was sad owneer a vs v6 and my old man had a ebxr8, the v6 has got poke 1st but they do die in the *** in 2nd like kenaz said ,the v8 wouldnt leave the v6 with ease after getting traction, since then he got au3xr8220, and i decided 2 go inl6 and save for turbo.

Plus my old vs pulled 106 rwkw with a few mods including exhaust.

106rwkw? WITH mods? That's ****house! Commies are terrible!

[LTDHO]

SVT8 - here's a question.
How long is a piece of string?

Does the EBI have a clapped out motor?
Is the Commodore Manual?
Does the EF have 345 gears?

[SVT8]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

SVT8 - here's a question.
How long is a piece of string?

Does the EBI have a clapped out motor?
Is the Commodore Manual?
Does the EF have 345 gears?

The EB I is in A1 condition, had it serviced about 3 weeks ago and got complimented on the condition of the car especially about the motor. Prevoius owner was by an old couple, and they kept the car in good nick so i guess i got a good car.

All of the cars are auto, and the futura doesnt have 3.45 gears.

The ghia has about 156kms on it, calais has 155km, mine has 152km on it and the futura has 190kms on it

[hppsc]

Originally Posted by FalconXR6

106rwkw? WITH mods? That's ****house! Commies are terrible!

Don't forget power to weight!

[OED666]

V8 closely followed by the Futura, Calais, and then EB Fairmont reeling in the Calais...

[EFFANATIC]

LMAO, 106rkw is **** i know haha thats y i sold it, but u cannot beat the torque ove a v8.
Plus there is no better sounding car than a v8 too IMO
heres a couple of quotes ive been told by my old mans mates who used to drag at AIR, Theirs no substatue for cubic inches and power is nothing without control. :

[Damo]

the Calais would win providing the drivers seat was fully reclined back and there was a 15 year old blonde in the passenger seat. Otherwise The V8 Fairmont would win hands down.

But who cares. I'd beat them all.

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by Joes_meat

and the EB would finish eventually.

LOL! Love the wording :P

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by Damo

the Calais would win providing the drivers seat was fully reclined back and there was a 15 year old blonde in the passenger seat. Otherwise The V8 Fairmont would win hands down.

But who cares. I'd beat them all.

With the speedo & tacho being read from such an off-set angle, the "pilot" can believe they're going way faster!

[needfordspeed]

Don't forget the stocky on the right hand back wheel!

MINT avatar Dave!

[snypereb]

V8 Fairmont comfortably!

[sam12h]

Originally Posted by SVT8

who would win in a quarter mile?

How about whoever puts in a T5 first???

Or whoever shows up with a timeslip first to settle it properly, indisputably & responsibly???

In reality, they are so close that tyres & traction, reaction time & torque converter condition will determine the actual winner more than the base car.

[NA XR6]

V8 Fairmont

[Damo]

Originally Posted by sam12h

How about whoever puts in a T5 first???

hahaha, It's funny cause it's true!

[EDXR6T]

this thread is useless without pic's!

im going for the 8. more torque

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by SVT8

last night we were at one of those pitstop kebab places, and were wondering who would win in a quarter mile. Since we dont have no money to go down to calder we got into a big arguement about it. These are the cars:

EB II Fairmont Ghia 6cyl 148kw
EB I Fairmont V8 165kw
VS Calais 6cyl 147kw
EF Futura Classic 6cyl 157kw

all are auto and most are stock except for my fairmont v8 with an exhaust kit and el gt air intake. These are the factors to take into consideration. The ghia is lighter then the v8 has an lsd diff and 1 more kw than the calais. The v8 is the heaviest but has raw power. The calais would be the lightest (im guessing, dont know much about the VS). And the futura has more power than the Calais and Ghia but is lighter than V8.

None of them would win because you guys cant afford to run them and see!

But you could take bets on who gets to the carpark at the drags first!

[benny_mac]

ive got an eb xr8 and ive dragged both my bros el gli and my mates vs v6 (with cat back), beat my bros gli easily but my mates commo was dead even with me all the way to 100 (which was the speed limit), both are autos and dont consider them to be clagged out. The ecotec v6s in the vs are the fastest 6cylinder commodores made due to light weight and shorter diff and gearbox ratios. Just a personal experience i thought id share

[oneredED]

The ecotec v6s in the vs are the fastest 6cylinder commodores made due to light weight and shorter diff and gearbox ratios. Just a personal experience i thought id share

I've found VP's are faster in my experience, even with the non-ecotec VN to VR motor.

[NeishaXR8_347]

V8 would win, off the topic has anyone noticed that all p platers in holdens lean to one side while driving, they always lean to the inside of the car, p platers in fords seem to sit normal.

[SVT8]

Originally Posted by oneredED

I've found VP's are faster in my experience, even with the non-ecotec VN to VR motor.

i though VP were slower than the VN's??

Originally Posted by neishaxr8

V8 would win, off the topic has anyone noticed that all p platers in holdens lean to one side while driving, they always lean to the inside of the car, p platers in fords seem to sit normal.

lol i can realate to that. Most i see have one hand over the steering wheel, leaned to one the side with a cap on.

[BOOSTDEF]

VPs are the fastest, VNs next, and then would be VT/VS then the dredded VR.

But I reckon it will come down to whichever falc has the better gearing, which would probably(I dont know, but arent they at least 3.23?) be the ghia?

[NC_GHIA]

In my experence commodores are S H I T house compared to any falcon... They have that first gear punch then they disapear in the rear vision mirror... I know this for a fact because two of my mates have VN's one auto the other manual... the manual keeps up but the auto disso's keeping in mind that mine is an auto with a cat back. They also have a 2.5" cat back...

[Joes_meat]

Originally Posted by BOOSTDEF

VPs are the fastest, VNs next, and then would be VT/VS then the dredded VR.

But I reckon it will come down to whichever falc has the better gearing, which would probably(I dont know, but arent they at least 3.23?) be the ghia?

VT's are the slowest of the bunch - especially the series 1.

Some would argue that the series 1 VN is the quickest of the lot - but I'm not going to get into it.

VS's have the best power to weight with the Ecotec engine, but VN/VP's are quicker to 100 due to their lower torque curves and firmer shifting transmissions.

Kenaz: My VS exec really picks up in second at about 3,500rpm - first almost feels as though torque is electronically limited. My mate says it feels the same in his VS Berlina. Weird. I don't think there's anything wrong with it as it does 0-100 in just under Holdens quoted 9 seconds.

[Falcon_Power_06]

Its a bit off topic but would a VP beat an EL?

[Kenaz]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Power_06

Its a bit off topic but would a VP beat an EL?

Probably to about 80. After that the Falcon would catch it and pull away pretty easy.