Kandos cement closing down

[cheap]

The iconic company announced it would be shuting down in the next 4 months, there are many reasons for this, however the CEO has been quoted

"Current regulation and government imposts are also an increasing burden on manufacturing and the carbon tax will only exacerbate this."

Could be a sign of things to come...

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by cheap

The iconic company announced it would be shuting down in the next 4 months, there are many reasons for this, however the CEO has been quoted

"Current regulation and government imposts are also an increasing burden on manufacturing and the carbon tax will only exacerbate this."

Could be a sign of things to come...

Ive heard of more than one other large iconic organisation considering simular

pretty sad and not so great for our economy, but hey we need to do our bit for the enviroment

I'm all for working more enviormentaly frendly, but surly tax insentives to encorage R&D in this area would be better all round than slapping another tax on us

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source?

[SB076]

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source?

http://www.mudgeeguardian.com.au/new...g/2220325.aspx

I found this article on the subject

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Originally Posted by SB076

http://www.mudgeeguardian.com.au/new...g/2220325.aspx

I found this article on the subject

thanks. i'm a big fan of their car show & it seems like a nice little town

[trippytaka]

Originally Posted by cheap

The iconic company announced it would be shuting down in the next 4 months, there are many reasons for this, however the CEO has been quoted

"Current regulation and government imposts are also an increasing burden on manufacturing and the carbon tax will only exacerbate this."

Could be a sign of things to come...

The Carbon Taxt hasn't even been released yet. There are barely any details.

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by trippytaka

The Carbon Taxt hasn't even been released yet. There are barely any details.

to us pelbs thats the case, but they were listed in the 500 that would be hit so you cant tell me there hasnt been hi end meetigns with the government and snr managment?

[SB076]

Originally Posted by trippytaka

The Carbon Taxt hasn't even been released yet. There are barely any details.

Correct, however to many I think the carbon tax is just the final straw. I would suggest they were finding things difficult, invested a large amount of money to try and improve their process (as per the article try to increase profitability) - still to struggled, sat down thought about what the future holds and made a decision.

@ Yeti do us plebs know who is listed in the top 500? - I would like to see that list.

[Yellow_Festiva]

A guy called 2GB talkback around 1 week ago. His mate buys 500t of cement locally per month. Since the announcement of this tax his price per ton will go up $XX as an estimate.

He then went on to say that he looked overseas for his cement supply. He will now be buying offshore, at 10% less than the locally produced product. His mate went on to say that the real price to source the cement from OS is MUCH cheaper, but the cement company increased their price to 10% below locally produced product as they knew they would get the sales anyway.

I can't remember the exact figures (they were mentioned) but there you go.

[Zero_PSI]

Goverment is sending everyone broke.

[Zero_PSI]

Edit: Wrong thread.

[dave351cid]

i grew up around Kandos and my first full time jobs were at the cement works, firstly with the contract metal fabrication company that worked there and then 4 years working for the cement company itself in the processing plant.

anyone who has been to Kandos will probably know the conection that the town had with the factory. nearly anywhere i have been i have met someone who knows Kandos cement, the cement factory was the identity of the town. taking that away will be like taking the harbour and all its attachments away from Sydney. i was just reading on facebook that the company intends to demolish the whole factory. its hard to imagine kandos without the works in the background.

i have my doubts that the carbon tax had much to do with the final decision, there were a lot of other things that would have come into it. ever since long before i started working there in 1982 it has been under constant threat of closure.

[FGII-XR6]

we will probably import it from china now it is so much cheaper to produce with political prisoners used for slave labour. They have great work incentives work or get shot

[BLKWDW]

The plant is owned by cement australia which is funny as its based overseas. There is still a plant based in qld and tas(cant remember where exactly) so will be interesting to see what happens to them.

They said on the radio the 93 jobs or so lost there will be like taking 90000 jobs away in syd.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by BLKWDW

The plant is owned by cement australia which is funny as its based overseas. There is still a plant based in qld and tas(cant remember where exactly) so will be interesting to see what happens to them.

They said on the radio the 93 jobs or so lost there will be like taking 90000 jobs away in syd.

The same mob that closed Geelong Cement.

[XD 351 Ute]

Originally Posted by BLKWDW

The plant is owned by cement australia which is funny as its based overseas. There is still a plant based in qld and tas(cant remember where exactly) so will be interesting to see what happens to them.

They said on the radio the 93 jobs or so lost there will be like taking 90000 jobs away in syd.

There is the cement milling plant at Bulwer Island in Brisbane, and our clinker plant here at Gladstone.
They closed the Rocky plant a bit over a year or so back, and we took on quite a few people from there.

We received a letter on Thursday about the Kandos plant and once they run out of the raw materials that are in stock for making their clinker, the plant will be turned off.

Regarding our plant, who knows what will happen, but I'm sure that the carbon tax debate will have an impact somehow.
Our clinker plant has been running for 14 years now, and a fair bit of the structural/fixed equipment is getting quite old & worn out.

We've been told from a number of years ago repeatedly, that the only thing stopping them importing clinker from the other Cement Australia (Holcim) plants in Asia, was the cost of shipping.

Just have to wait and see I suppose.

Ed

[Elks]

I was talking to a customer who runs a cement operation the other day who said that the carbon tax would hit them very hard as concrete, is a major contributor to carbon emmisions. I assume that is through its production and transportation.

A major price rice would see people look to alternate, low carbon materials, exactly what the govt wants.

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by SB076

Correct, however to many I think the carbon tax is just the final straw. I would suggest they were finding things difficult, invested a large amount of money to try and improve their process (as per the article try to increase profitability) - still to struggled, sat down thought about what the future holds and made a decision.

@ Yeti do us plebs know who is listed in the top 500? - I would like to see that list.

I dont beleive so, but there was an interview with the CEO on old people talk back radio on Friday and he said that they were on and that as a result there busienss wouldnt be viabel

The up shot is we will now import this heaviest of building porducts as it will be cheaper than working under the constraints of the govt. it will be coming from a place that doesnt give a rats about the enviroment or its workers

Nice work Jules

[Keepleft]

Pollies on Facebook are well aware the carbon tax IS the final straw with this plants closure. It's demise though surprised the local MP's.

We'll simply import more stuff as this plant, and other industries, including some 14 or so mines shut, ending a few jobs.

[deesun]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

We'll simply import more stuff

From countries who dont give a rats rear obout global climate thingy.

[Hally]

Thats the clanger in all the carbon tx debate. What Australia saves on carbon emissions through these taxation measures, it will be replace (or increased) by moving the production overseas to countries who don't have enviromental controls, worker safety standards etc.