|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
25-02-2009, 02:56 PM | #1 | |||
Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 20,378
|
I received this as an email today. Its an interesting look from a Boss' point of view.
Quote:
PS. Mods please delete/lock this thread if its a repost
__________________
"the greatest trick the devil pulled, is convincing the world he doesn't exist" 2022 Mazda CX5 GTSP Turbo 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Highlander 1967 XR FALCON 500 Cars previously owned: 2021 Subaru Outback Sport 2018 Subaru XV-S 2012 Subaru Forester X 2007 Subaru Liberty GT 2001 AU2 75th Anniversary Futura 2001 Subaru GX wagon 1991 EB XR8 1977 XC Fairmont 1990 EA S Pak 1984 XE S Pak 1982 ZJ Fairlane 1983 XE Fairmont 1989 EA Falcon 1984 Datsun Bluebird Wagon 1975 Honda Civic |
|||
25-02-2009, 03:03 PM | #2 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,438
|
Very good read
|
||
25-02-2009, 03:11 PM | #3 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Miranda, NSW
Posts: 6,771
|
Great and a lot of truth in it
__________________
2005 BA MK2 FPV GT - 6 SPEED MANUAL , SILHOUETTE, SWISSVAX, SUNROOF, BILSTEIN AND LOVELLS, FACTORY GENUINE 19'S, X-FORCE STAINLESS QUAD CATBACK, ADVANCE HEADERS, 200 CPSI CATS, BLUEPOWER CAI, HERROD BREATHER KIT, 4:11 DIFF RATIO, MAL WOOD OPT 3+ CLUTCH, BILLET SHIFTER, MELLINGS 10227, NOW WITH REVERSE CAMERA/SENSORS, ALPINE SPEAKERS & SUB - CUSTOM TUNED TO 275 RWKW NOW WITH A NEW ADDITION - 2017 MUSTANG V8 GT FASTBACK - , 6 SPEED AUTO IN PLATINUM WHITE, |
||
25-02-2009, 03:18 PM | #4 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: somerville
Posts: 91
|
spot on
__________________
2002 ba xr6, manual, leather, premium sound, 19" ANZ Tazers - sold 2010 xr50 turbo manual with the works! |
||
25-02-2009, 03:26 PM | #5 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 242
|
I would say youre boss has just realised, that after all that sacrifice and work over the years is going to come to nothing, because of the economic slow down
|
||
25-02-2009, 03:52 PM | #6 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: QLD Townsville
Posts: 389
|
i hope he sent it to the government too
__________________
HTFU!!!! |
||
25-02-2009, 03:57 PM | #7 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 256
|
Couldn't agree more! God help us (the pollies clearly wont) when we really start to see the effects of this over the next 5 years.
__________________
Velocity 04 BA XR6 Ute Ceramic coated 4490's, Magnaflow high flow cat, Twin 2.5" Mercury exhaust, BPR CAI , Territory tessa pipes. :evil3: 20% Underdrives waiting to be fitted My Build Thread
|
||
25-02-2009, 03:58 PM | #8 | ||
dazed&confused
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: in the shed of invention
Posts: 902
|
great read
__________________
ban frangipanis beauty is only skin deep. ugly goes all the way to the bone. |
||
25-02-2009, 04:29 PM | #9 | ||
Have Boost, will use it..
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 4,056
|
How true that is......
Good read. |
||
25-02-2009, 04:45 PM | #10 | ||
OCD keeps me busy...
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 944
|
Great post - I've sent it to my boss
|
||
25-02-2009, 04:53 PM | #11 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cattai, Sydney
Posts: 7,701
|
Great read, thanks for posting
__________________
1992 EBII Fairmont Ghia 4.0l <---Click for the Gallery! Insta@mooneye_ghia White on bright red smoothies with thick whitewalls. Cruising around to some rockabilly |
||
25-02-2009, 05:16 PM | #12 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 139
|
A Subaru? Bourgeois scum! How very opulent.
Edit: But without taxes, where would else could he parade his golden chariot in clear sight of the drooling plebs? |
||
25-02-2009, 05:16 PM | #13 | ||
Performance moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St Clair..N.S.W
Posts: 14,875
|
Agree but when people stop spending . Everyone suffers..
It takes all sorts to make the word go around.. If everyone was a tightass ?? There would be little money made.. BTW to a point I'm one of them !! According to my family .. Lol..
__________________
Real cars are not driven by front wheels,real cars lift them!!... BABYS ARE BOTTLE FED, REAL MEN GET BLOWN. Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! Dart 330ci block turbo black pearl EBXR8 482 rwkw.. Daily driver GTE FG.. Projects http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=107711 http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...8+turbo&page=4 |
||
25-02-2009, 05:49 PM | #14 | ||
Flairs - Truckers Delight
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
Posts: 5,731
|
I don't agree.
If the business can't make a profit after ALL expenses (inc tax and wages) then there's no point to the business. The story is very emotional and not very factual. This is why 99% of people are employees, they're not mad enough to think being an employer is a good thing. I don't see that tax on businesses has changed very significantly at all over the past 5, 10 or even 20 years. If your business can only survive the good times and not the bad, then it's not a viable business and the govt should not be blamed.
__________________
Current: Silhouette Black 2007 SY Ford Territory TX RWD 7-seater "Black Banger"
2006-2016: Regency Red 2000 AUII Ford Falcon Forte Automatic Sedan Tickford LPG "Millennium Falcon" |
||
25-02-2009, 06:00 PM | #15 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 55
|
Couldnt have said it better myself.
|
||
25-02-2009, 06:12 PM | #16 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 55
|
Quote:
|
|||
25-02-2009, 06:20 PM | #17 | ||
LIKE A BOSS 351
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 2,779
|
The boss that wrote that letter sounds like my father. Always on the go, always thinking about whats next, always tied to his business. Though things have always been like this for small businesses, I don't see why they have to make it harder than it already is?
|
||
25-02-2009, 06:54 PM | #18 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Elwood, Melbourne
Posts: 162
|
Sounds like the kitchen just got too hot for someone
|
||
25-02-2009, 06:55 PM | #19 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,438
|
The point was that it may all seem like a glamorous life being the boss but more often than not there is a lot of sacrifice behind the scenes and the employees seem to think that the boss can pluck money off a magical money tree.
It's coming from the point of view that bosses don't do anything and have it easy which is completely untrue, again more often than not. People very rarely fall into high paying jobs and at the end of the day the responsibility falls on them. |
||
25-02-2009, 07:17 PM | #20 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: melbourne
Posts: 267
|
Its a very carefully designed emotional piece to get a specific response.
It also uses extreme and very specific examples. Think Kerry Packer was eating baked beans and driving a rusty toyota corolla when he started out? Think the guy earning 50K and doing 38 hours a week was living it up big time when he was doing uni or his apprenticeship? I dont think so. Im sorry, but i just dont see that Buisnesses need tax cuts. Mind you I also disagee with the government giving money away to the general populus which will probably just blow it on useless consumer crap. If the government really wanted to stimulate the economy they would pour the money into infastructure and capital projects. Its a tried and proven method. |
||
25-02-2009, 07:57 PM | #21 | ||
Move, I'm trying to SPEED
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Nowra
Posts: 50
|
Im buying some defillipo headers and an x-forcee exhaust with my $900 plus obviously my own money. Im stimulating myself with these mods... Who wants my $900 government money and the rest of my 38 hour pay???
On a more serious note (im still buying that stuff), my boss works hard and i dont even like him. But i respect him coz if he didnt do such long hours and and work so hard, he surley would of cut my pay. But he works hard to make him more money too...
__________________
Owner of Winter White BF XR8 2006 Model Difilippo & X-Force Exhaust, BPR CAI and CV Performance Custom tune. ZF Auto 238.5 RWKW "A careful driver is one who honks his horn when he goes through a red light." :evil3:
|
||
25-02-2009, 08:55 PM | #22 | ||
trying to get a leg over
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,690
|
Great Read
__________________
Cameron ------------------------------------------------------ |
||
25-02-2009, 10:12 PM | #23 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,566
|
i enjoyed reading this piece and also some of your responses but i would like to make the point that the previous government handout AND the one some are about to receive are not going to be effective because
1. people are struggling and will use it to pay their mortgage (interest rates have fallen but its too late for it to make a real difference, people are far enough behind already) 2. people are struggling and will use it for petrol, which we are paying too much for, which the government does nothing about 3. people are struggling and choose to buy foreign, cheaper products instead of australian made and/or owned; if people chose such products, the stimulus package would start to take effect if the above are all true (particularly number 3), then this "boss" is correct. australian businesses DO need to be supported. 1. less taxes means they get to take more home and dont have to put their prices up so high as this makes their goods even less accessible to australians compared to cheaper foreign counterparts 2. tariffs need to rise, not fall on foreign goods. im sure everyone is in the know about the car industry crisis are a few obvious things annoy me about it and obviously they will to you. why is it i can buy a hyundai getz far cheaper than i can a focus or festiva or a barina or an astra? i dont think this is right... or maybe the government is the clever one and wishes for us to have crappy cars on the roads so that our mechanics have more work repairing breakdowns? not likely. 3. the government needs to do far more for small businesses, the work is drying up because of the current climate but its not just the trade owners that are suffering, its the apprentices. apprentices are being layed off, young adults fresh out of school cant find apprenticeships, this is australia's future we are playing with. sure, they can go work in retail for a few years and be qualified for what??? they can work at coles or kfc but where will they be in 10 years? 5 years??? yes, it is possible to survive on unskilled labour and yes, it is possible to do quite well, but not for everyone. those people are going to be in the same position as people are now, no money for spending and then we are stuck in exactly the same position we are in now. the government stimulus package ****es me the hell off but i will be thankful for my $900 when i receive it. its going to stay in the bank and be saved for a rainy day because i cant afford to be throwing money around |
||
25-02-2009, 10:22 PM | #24 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Townsville
Posts: 1,167
|
Its a worldwide problem and it may get far worse across the world
|
||
25-02-2009, 10:54 PM | #25 | |||
yum
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,417
|
Quote:
Your an idiot. The Festiva WAS made in the same country as the Getz but hasn't been sold for a good 8 or so years. Other 3 cars are also built overseas so if the tarrifs were increased the prices of Focus etc would be included.
__________________
2005 LS Focus LX
Nov05 | Manual | Black Sapphire 250,000kms. |
|||
25-02-2009, 10:57 PM | #26 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,566
|
ok so the post did go through, can a mod delete this one?
Last edited by Stattic; 25-02-2009 at 11:07 PM. |
||
25-02-2009, 11:06 PM | #27 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,566
|
i swear to god i just replied to that post maybe i forgot to click post....
anyways i said yes, you are right, i chose a bad example without really thinking about it but the point still stands in general, im talking about australian products vs foreign products overall and no im not an idiot =) just misinformed |
||
26-02-2009, 08:01 AM | #28 | ||
rocknrolla
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Adelaide, SA
Posts: 1,589
|
start the violin music, the boss is hard done by.
__________________
1979 P6 LTD 383c
1970 ZC Fairlane 500 351w 1964 XM Falcon Deluxe 200ci |
||
26-02-2009, 10:12 AM | #29 | |||
Bolt Nerd
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ojochal, Costa Rica (Pura Vida!)
Posts: 14,859
|
Quote:
"Very emotional" My oath, running a business certainly IS emotional! "Not very factual"... How the hell would YOU KNOW? There's more to owning & operating a business then just bloody profits! There's a tiny little thing called "RESPONSIBILITY".. Responsibility to your employees that they have a stable, sustainable paying position. These employees, who ARE your bread & butter, also have commitments such as mortgages, school fees, rates, utility bills, car running costs, etc, etc. You have NO IDEA how tough it can be ensuring this continuity and stability is to keep merrily rolling along! (ESPECIALLY nowadays) And I certainly DO believe the Government needs to take some blame here! They've completely turned their back on the manufacturing industry in Australia, along with decades and decades of skills. These will be lost forever. As will industry as we know it! Australia... "The world's biggest warehouse"!!
__________________
Current vehicles.. Yamaha Rhino UTV, SWB 4L TJ Jeep, and boring Lhd RAV4 Bionic BF F6... UPDATE: Replaced by Shiro White 370z 7A Roadster. SOLD Workhack: FG Silhouette XR50 Turbo ute (11.63@127.44mph) SOLD 2 wheels.. 2015 103ci HD Wideglide.. SOLD SOLD THE LOT, Voted with our feet and relocated to COSTA RICA for some Pura Vida! (Ex Blood Orange #023 FPV Pursuit owner : ) |
|||
26-02-2009, 10:26 AM | #30 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Filling up
Posts: 1,459
|
Quote:
__________________
VIXEN MK II GT 0238 with Sunroof and tinted windows with out all the go fast bits I actually need : |
|||