Wheels July 2010

flappist · 17-06-2010, 06:29 PM

For those who are so sure Wheels is totally holden biased.

About a squillion pages of Falcon from the beginning until current day showing the international influences, local designs and most interestingly direct comparos against holden and mopar showing the Falcon to have been ahead of holden almost all the way.

Bloody good read.

**Revolver** · 17-06-2010, 06:30 PM

Sparkling Performance as usual flappist.

smciner1 · 17-06-2010, 06:43 PM

Yep, a good read. I had a good Day at the Proving Ground for the Photo Shoot, my EF XR6 made a guest appearance.

drew`SEVNT5 · 17-06-2010, 08:01 PM

OMG!

How can you say any of the aussie magazine aren't so totally, like, biased to Holden(Daewoo, amiright!)

You can totally tell there bias because Fords don't win anything, and they don't drive them right, even when the Ford is the mostest superior car going around.... Even when they say something good about ford, they always manage to point out Holdens may have good points..

I think you need to read harder inbetween the lines.

/sarcasm off

ea90gl · 17-06-2010, 08:24 PM

Ah yes but a huge butt ugly pic of the "faclifted VE" on the front cover with something about ford falcons 50th anniversary tucked underneath. However credit where credit is due, inside was a great read and comprehensive detail on the history of the Falcon which many Falcon admirers would enjoy

Joe5619 · 17-06-2010, 08:31 PM

good read!!

How much do those 30th GT EL (or is it EF?) go for these days?? I think that is my fav Falcon of all time!!

Is the VE on the front what the VE II looks like?? Where are the changes?? Poor Holden fans!!

fangq · 17-06-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ea90gl

Ah yes but a huge butt ugly pic of the "faclifted VE" on the front cover with something about ford falcons 50th anniversary tucked underneath. However credit where credit is due, inside was a great read and comprehensive detail on the history of the Falcon which many Falcon admirers would enjoy

I'll have to go and buy edition now. The "face lifted" VE put me of : another Helen Keller in the parts bin job..
Steve

uranium_death · 17-06-2010, 10:11 PM

Thanks for the post, Flappist.
I will definitely grab myself one.

BlueOvalPrint · 17-06-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ea90gl

Ah yes but a huge butt ugly pic of the "faclifted VE" on the front cover with something about ford falcons 50th anniversary tucked underneath. However credit where credit is due, inside was a great read and comprehensive detail on the history of the Falcon which many Falcon admirers would enjoy

Agree, the 50 years of Falcon article is a beauty, 72 pages of very well written info and anecdotes. But it's very frustrating that the big focus of the cover is a comgen "impression" of what the mild VEII facelift to the Commodore MIGHT look like, supported by a speculative article that takes up just 3 pages of the whole mag.

Even if it's argued that's because the Commodore is the top selling car in Oz, I can't imagine Wheels doing the same screamer headline for Toyota as the top selling carmaker if the next Corolla (#2 seller) or Hilux (often #3) is approaching facelift time and Commodore is approaching another badge birthday. Cynical? Possibly, but I'm sure Holden don't outlay big $ for the first ad in Wheels on pages 2-3 each month and not get SOME scratch-my-back advantage...

exdubbleya · 18-06-2010, 09:11 AM

Yeah, Wheels does do that a lot with their comgen guesses (mind you, whoever is doing the photo-shopping is pretty good at it).
The Ford spread itself is pretty good, nice to see some detailed attention. My only gripe is that it should have been a seperate liftout. I remember a few years back when Mitsubishi released the 380, and Wheels actully printed a seperate 30 odd page liftout - not many cars keep the same badge for 50 years, they should have done the same.

**Peuty** · 18-06-2010, 09:20 AM

It seems that some people will never be happy.....

GreenMachine · 18-06-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smciner1

Yep, a good read. I had a good Day at the Proving Ground for the Photo Shoot, my EF XR6 made a guest appearance.

Just flicked through it while I waited for my coffee - The old girl polished up nicely, Shane!

Deco28 · 18-06-2010, 10:34 AM

Wow, in two days the two BIGGEST lies which are constantly circulated on these forums have been ground down to a pulp.

2012 is getting closer.

Joe5619 · 18-06-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Deco28

Wow, in two days the two BIGGEST lies which are constantly circulated on these forums have been ground down to a pulp.

2012 is getting closer.

please explain!!

kocho · 18-06-2010, 11:04 AM

I liked it. What I didn't like was the error of having the BA XR6 picture on the bottom left of page 78 which was supposed to be the EB. Ruined the timeline!

wrongwaynorris · 18-06-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by flappist

For those who are so sure Wheels is totally holden biased.

About a squillion pages of Falcon from the beginning until current day showing the international influences, local designs and most interestingly direct comparos against holden and mopar showing the Falcon to have been ahead of holden almost all the way.

Bloody good read.

What , Holden Monthly biased !!!!! Never would have guessed it .

smciner1 · 18-06-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kocho

I liked it. What I didn't like was the error of having the BA XR6 picture on the bottom left of page 78 which was supposed to be the EB. Ruined the timeline!

LOL, yeah I saw that!

uranium_death · 18-06-2010, 01:47 PM

While I really enjoyed it, I was quite annoyed that a major milestone for a marque played second banana to a 'Scoop' on a 'New Commodore'.

We've only had countless incorrect reports on Holden through Wheels and Motor...Falcon turning 50 is known and guaranteed.

I would have thought that one of the world's oldest car brands would have an entire cover dedicated to it. Heaven knows it deserves it.

Irrespective, I really enjoyed the article.

**DFB FGXR6** · 18-06-2010, 07:47 PM

A great read, but yes, it should have been the main focus for the front cover. There were a few information errors for AU and BA sections I noticed. For example they refered to the BA XT as a Forte. They state the 220kW AUII/III XR8's had alloy heads. They also claim the BA Barra 6 had a new block. I know there is a lot of information to cover in such a small space (Each generation could fill a book with info) but they are a dedicated car mag, that covered the release of each model in impressive detail when new, so these muck-ups should not have been made.
Picky I know, but I'm a stickler for deatil.

Paxton · 18-06-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

A great read, but yes, it should have been the main focus for the front cover. There were a few information errors for AU and BA sections I noticed. For example they refered to the BA XT as a Forte. They state the 220kW AUII/III XR8's had alloy heads. They also claim the BA Barra 6 had a new block. I know there is a lot of information to cover in such a small space (Each generation could fill a book with info) but they are a dedicated car mag, that covered the release of each model in impressive detail when new, so these muck-ups should not have been made.
Picky I know, but I'm a stickler for deatil.

All right then, tell me why the EF picture in the timeline was wrong.

**DFB FGXR6** · 18-06-2010, 08:27 PM

Is it a EF series 2 instead of series 1?

GTpilot · 18-06-2010, 08:44 PM

might be worth a wander over to marketing for a read. still wont buy it though.

BigAL_250 · 18-06-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Is it a EF series 2 instead of series 1?

The wheel covers are definitely series 2.

There is a pic on Falcon Facts that looks identical.

I reckon that they think Ford made a car exactly the same as the BA, in 1991, is a slightly larger error.

ltd · 19-06-2010, 07:53 AM

I don't buy it for the articles, I buy it for the pictures...........
No wait, that's another magazine. Umm, this one I'll buy for the articles.

Melz · 19-06-2010, 08:10 AM

Will have to pop into town later and grab myself a copy.

But gee there are some serial whingers on here... 'oh a commodore made the cover' boo hoo. There are A LOT more important things in life than the cover of a magazine.

Bridge building time people!

mcnews · 19-06-2010, 08:14 AM

Covers are about selling magazines, not about what is inside. Obviously it must mean having a Commodore on the cover sells more magazines, simple.

jpd80 · 19-06-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Covers are about selling magazines, not about what is inside. Obviously it must mean having a Commodore on the cover sells more magazines, simple.

That's been a known fact for the past 30 years or so, Wheels buyers go off
the bite if there are seen to be too many Ford articles and not enough Holden ones.
Don't be surprised if this edition has fairly low sales compared to editions full of Holden stuff...

b2tf · 19-06-2010, 08:53 AM

Have had it for a week and now and for those who care to pull their heads out of their own dark personal cavities it is quite a good read. For those who still wish to whinge and ***** and moan and carry on, please keep buying the odd issue here and there because it is oh so much fun to watch you jump on here and make complete fools of yourself.

Paxton · 19-06-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Is it a EF series 2 instead of series 1?

Correct.

jpd80 · 19-06-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

Have had it for a week and now and for those who care to pull their heads out of their own dark personal cavities it is quite a good read. For those who still wish to whinge and ***** and moan and carry on, please keep buying the odd issue here and there because it is oh so much fun to watch you jump on here and make complete fools of yourself.

Gotta say I liked the the BA picture under EB, that was a classic....