Do people actually BUY these old cars?

[Crazy Dazz]

I'm not going to single out individual sellers for ridicule, but anyone who spends 5 minutes looking at old car ads (on gumtree, ebay, etc, etc) has seen plenty.
I'm talking about prospective projects or restorations, which often seem extremely overpriced, relative to what is physically present.

I suspect there may be an inherent flaw in the "market"?
In so much as people can only see what others are asking. They can't see what people are offering, or what cars actually sell for.

Which leads me to my question. Are these cars actually selling? And if so, for how much?

I'd be interested to here from anyone that has actually bought an old car to restore. Without divulging your details, how did the price and condition of your car compare to the average of what's on offer?

[FPV6]

How old are we talking classic or plastic

[FPV6]

if we take ford falcons for example anything between XE AU I would bother

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by FPV6

if we take ford falcons for example anything between XE AU I would bother

they're new cars

[FPV6]

Originally Posted by The Yeti

they're new cars

what are new cars?

[Stefan]

This really looks like Hulk thread.

[FPV6]

Originally Posted by Stefan

This really looks like Hulk thread.

what the hell is Hulk thread

[damo6]

Originally Posted by FPV6

what the hell is Hulk thread

He's the troll king of this forum,tried to sneak back under many a guise but gets found out everytime,usually his dumb *** questions get him busted,no offence there to the o.p.

[FPV6]

Originally Posted by damo6

He's the troll king of this forum,tried to sneak back under many a guise but gets found out everytime,usually his dumb *** questions get him busted,no offence there to the o.p.

Oh so in actual fact Crazy Dazz is Crazy

[Falcon SXR8]

I know what ya mean mate i've been looking for a long time now for a project. The crap some people try and sell, and the stories about why there falcon 500 6cld missing every part under the sun that they pulled from there granddads back paddock because they heard old falcons sell for a million dollars is more special than every other rusted out 6cld makes me laugh.

But there are nice stuff out there for decent prices you just have to be quick and have the cash ready to go

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by FPV6

what are new cars?

Anything between XE & AUI as you described

these are new cars AFAIC

Falcons I would consider old are XK-XC chrome bumper stuff after that they're new

[superyob]

Originally Posted by FPV6

what the hell is Hulk thread

Look up 5 second Aurion...

[Qwerty321]

Originally Posted by superyob

Look up 5 second Aurion...

Am I the only one on this forum which actually likes the Toyota Aurion...

[arronm]

FWD= Lose

[Crazy Dazz]

There's nothing wrong with somebody wanted to restore an XD-F, and there are some decent ones around cheap.
Personally, I'm looking at pre-70's, but that's just me.

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by arronm

FWD= Lose

The only good aplication is in a FWD van with shelves and the rest is loaded.... if you drive fast through the corners everything ends up on the floor, probably why they have rediculously small motors and are so slow. The added space of not having a tailshaft is the bonus. Weight transfer is the problem. Weight over the rear means less of the traction goodness. In a 5 second aurion (in theory) shouldn't the weight on the hectic launch (?) Take the best part of the weight and traction from the drive wheels? Our mate Henry got the design almost right with the model t, but he should of also invented the starter motor

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

I know what ya mean mate i've been looking for a long time now for a project. The crap some people try and sell, and the stories about why there falcon 500 6cld missing every part under the sun that they pulled from there granddads back paddock because they heard old falcons sell for a million dollars is more special than every other rusted out 6cld makes me laugh.

But there are nice stuff out there for decent prices you just have to be quick and have the cash ready to go

The whole "economy" of old cars is really quite intriguing...

When a car that actually IS "suitable for restoration" becomes available, invariably it will get snapped up, or outbid, by one of the vultures. He proceeds to sell all the good parts, to people restoring their cars, then sells the shell as a "perfect project" to some poor smuck who then has to commence paying inflated prices to buy all the parts the previous guy stripped.

Then you've got the guy who may (or may not) have started with something decent, and thinks he has done some great service by stripping it to the bones and scattering the parts around his shed, and now wants me to take his word that "everything is there" But every specific question is met with "of course it has that, no I can't see it, must be here somewhere."
I don't blame somebody for abandoning a project, stuff happens. What I find fault with is their logic that the car is somehow now worth MORE, BECAUSE they have pulled all the parts off it.

And don't get me started on BOG. Any idiot can fill a hole with bog.

[Qwerty321]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

The only good aplication is in a FWD van with shelves and the rest is loaded.... if you drive fast through the corners everything ends up on the floor, probably why they have rediculously small motors and are so slow. The added space of not having a tailshaft is the bonus. Weight transfer is the problem. Weight over the rear means less of the traction goodness. In a 5 second aurion (in theory) shouldn't the weight on the hectic launch (?) Take the best part of the weight and traction from the drive wheels? Our mate Henry got the design almost right with the model t, but he should of also invented the starter motor

I mean it's pretty much unanimously agreed that RWD/AWD is greater than FWD. All I'm saying is that FWD cars can still be a bucketload of fun, and an Aurion is a perfect example of this. Heck, I had a heavy Lexus ES300 FWD Automatic as a first car, which is pretty much on paper the most boring useless car in the universe. I had a **** tonne of fun hooning around in that though.

[.:4:.]

Ahh yes, but whilst power over steer may point you in right, the only thing power under steer points you towards is is either the gutter or a power pole. Neither is exactly desirable. However oversteer into on coming traffic is probably worse. Traction on..

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Qwerty321

Am I the only one on this forum which actually likes the Toyota Aurion...

Keep that up and you'll be out like your mate....

[Windsor220]

The best is when they have an old wreck that is basically destroyed and 90% rust and they are trying to sell it for thousands of dollars.

[arronm]

All FWD cars do is rip the steering wheel out of your hands

[XD 351 Ute]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

Ahh yes, but whilst power over steer may point you in right, the only thing power under steer points you towards is is either the gutter or a power pole. Neither is exactly desirable. However oversteer into on coming traffic is probably worse. Traction on..

lol, a mate found this out the hard way in a Mini Moke on a section of dirt road.
The look on his face was priceless....

Ed

[Junkyard-Dog]

Reminds me of old mate we went to see the other day. Selling a HQ ute which looked like a fairly good one from pics and he only wanted $2750 for it. Says "very little rust" in the ad.

In the time that it took to get to this bloke's house, half the steel has magically transformed into iron-oxide. Runs like a sack of crap too. $2750 is alright for a decent one but not for the pile. Old mate says he's firm on price too.

Still, not as bad as the joker that wants $20k for his resto mod 4-door XB.

[Streets]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

The best is when they have an old wreck that is basically destroyed and 90% rust and they are trying to sell it for thousands of dollars.

sounds like someone's been looking at hardtops on ebay

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by arronm

All FWD cars do is rip the steering wheel out of your hands

When was the last time you drove a FWD? did it have power steering?

[peteb57]

"Old Car" = Anything that came with standard Chrome Bumber Bars ?

[Jack91]

Having restored 4 cars and sold 2 of them completed, I've been noticed there's really only 2 types of buyers. People who want to spend 20,30,40k+ on a turnkey drive anywhere classic, or those that want to spend less than 5k and do the lot themselves. Personally I'd never never buy another half way done project though, you end up paying more but having to start over again anyway, and having to figure out what goes where and how. But they do sell, often at a very reduced price from what they're advertised at because the owner has realised they've bitten off way more than they are can chew, or is simply sick of working on it.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Jack91

Having restored 4 cars and sold 2 of them completed, I've been noticed there's really only 2 types of buyers. People who want to spend 20,30,40k+ on a turnkey drive anywhere classic, or those that want to spend less than 5k and do the lot themselves. Personally I'd never never buy another half way done project though, you end up paying more but having to start over again anyway, and having to figure out what goes where and how. But they do sell, often at a very reduced price from what they're advertised at because the owner has realised they've bitten off way more than they are can chew, or is simply sick of working on it.

Agreed Unfinished project = Problem

[poppa smurf]

having said all of the above I admire the feller that picks up something like a couple of mudguards and a bit of bonnet from out of a paddock and 10 years later he exhibits a brand new "T" model Ford.

that takes guts and determination.....got my respect.