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16-02-2011, 06:53 PM | #1 | ||
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Updated styling, a Commodore engine and reduced prices headline the new Captiva SUV range.
Holden has stretched the gap between its Captiva 5 and 7 models with the launch of its updated Captiva Series II. The two models now feature significantly different front-end styling as well as a number of tweaks under the skin, including the adoption of the Commodore's 3.0-litre V6 engine for the flagship model. Holden has also cut the price across the entire new Captiva range as competition heats up in the booming SUV market; Ford's Territory - the most obvious rival for the Captiva - will be updated in April with the addition of a diesel engine for the first time. Having pushed the current Holden Captiva 5 as a compact SUV and the Holden Captiva 7 as a medium-sized, Holden is taking the separation a step further with two distinctively different looks. The five-seat Captiva 5 features a more angular look similar to the current model, while the seven-seat Captiva 7 sports more rectangular headlights and grille openings to better distinguish between the two. There are even more significant changes to the updated new Captiva with new engines and transmissions. Both new Captiva models continue to be offered in both front- and all-wheel drive configurations, catering to those who want off-road ability and those looking for an SUV with additional flexibility and chunky styling. The Captiva 5 is now available with a turbo diesel engine along with an updated version of the 2.4-litre petrol engine. The Captiva's new 2.2-litre diesel produces 135kW of power and 400Nm of torque and the company claims it uses an average 8.5L/100km in the 4WD five-seater. The 2.4-litre petrol engine has had both a power and torque increase from 108kW to 123kW and 220Nm to 230Nm respectively. Fuel consumption has been reduced from 9.7L/100km to 9.1L/100km in the manual 2WD. The new flagship engine for the Captiva 7 is the Australian-built direct injection 3.0-litre V6 from the Commodore. But while it offers a power increase of 12 per cent over the old 3.2-litre V6, torque drops from 297Nm to 288Nm. Fuel consumption is reduced from the old engine though, down to 11.3L/100km from 11.7. In the Captiva 7 2WD the diesel engine returns 8.1L/100km and the 2.4 petrol engine manages 9.1L/100km. All engines can now be mated to a six-speed automatic transmission, replacing the outgoing model's five-speed unit. A six-speed manual is only available on the Captiva 5 two-wheel drive petrol model. Holden has retained the SX, CX and LX model designations for the Captiva 7. The entry-level Captiva SX is only 2WD and is powered by either the 2.4 petrol or diesel engine and a standard automatic gearbox. Both the Captiva CX and Captiva LX are available with a choice of the diesel or V6 engines paired with the automatic transmission and all-wheel drive. The Captiva SX rides on 17-inch alloy wheels, the Captiva CX on 18-inch and the Captiva LX on 19-inch wheels. The Captiva 5 is a three-model line-up with the choice of 2WD petrol with manual or automatic and the all-wheel drive diesel automatic. All models ride on 17-inch alloy wheels. The interior has also been given a styling update which includes the addition of an electric park brake that frees up more storage space. The Captiva 7 comes standard with MP3 compatible sound system, Bluetooth phone and audio streaming, air-conditioning, leather wrapped steering wheel and cruise control. The step up to the Captiva CX adds climate control air-conditioning, rear parking sensors and a trip computer. The flagship Captiva LX includes a rear view camera, satellite navigation, leather seat trim, 7-inch touchscreen display and a USB input. The Captiva 5 is equipped with six-disc MP3 compatible stereo, air-conditioning, leather wrapped steering wheel, front and rear parking sensors, cruise control, trip computer and trip computer across the range. Holden has improved safety by making six-airbags standard across the entire new Captiva range along with hill start assist and hill descent control. Other standard safety features include electronic stability control, anti-lock brakes and active rollover protection. The updated Captiva Series II range starts at the same price as the old model, with the Captiva 5 2WD petrol manual starting at $27,990 (plus government and dealer charges). The automatic adds $2000 to the petrol model and the new diesel Captiva 5 starts at $33,990. The Captiva 7 is priced from $32,490 for the new SX 2WD petrol. The rest of the Captiva range has had a price reduction over the outgoing range as Holden tries to close the sales gap to the segment leading Toyota Prado and Kluger and upcoming new Ford Territory. Prices have been cut by $2000 across the range. The diesel Captiva SX now costs $35,490, CX V6 $38,490, CX diesel $39,490, LX V6 $42,490 and LX diesel $43,490.
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16-02-2011, 07:03 PM | #2 | ||
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It is still only a Captiva, but the pricing is sharp. $32,990 is a keen entry point for the basic FWD model.
Ford need to ensure that the superior Territory is also priced competitively. Getting early sales momentum is very important.
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16-02-2011, 07:23 PM | #4 | |||
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The new Captiva uses basically the same PSA 2.2 diesel unit used in Mondeo, Transit and T6 Ranger. I think Holden is on a winner with the new SIDI 2.4, SIDI 3.0 and 2.2 TDCI engines, they seem to have so much of the market covered with basically one type of vehicle.... |
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16-02-2011, 07:30 PM | #5 | ||
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Have they gotten rid of the 1980s radio display yet?
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16-02-2011, 07:33 PM | #6 | |||
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16-02-2011, 08:14 PM | #7 | ||
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In keeping with true Korean/Asian styling, ripping off someone elses design (Toyota Highlander front end) but not quite pulling it off; more conflicting lines than every Bangle BMW put together.
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16-02-2011, 08:21 PM | #8 | |||
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16-02-2011, 08:40 PM | #9 | ||
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Front end is hiddeous.
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16-02-2011, 08:51 PM | #10 | |||
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16-02-2011, 08:58 PM | #11 | |||
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Captiva is a mid sized SUV and yes it's narrower than Territory but it's wheelbase is similar length. |
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16-02-2011, 09:02 PM | #12 | |||
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Probably since FCAI decided to classify them both as Mid Size SUV's. And really, i guess cars dont even compete with cars in their own categories these days. Go out and buy a car for two adults and 2 kids, and you could pick from tens of cars and SUV's |
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16-02-2011, 09:10 PM | #13 | ||
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The front end certainly looks like it comes from Korea.
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16-02-2011, 09:25 PM | #14 | ||
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What was that line from Predator that Arnold Schwarzenegger used the first time he saw the Predator?
Here's a hint, it contained a naughty word and wasnt too flattering of its looks...much like this car!
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16-02-2011, 09:35 PM | #15 | |||
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I like it better than the series one. But having said that...refer to above Arnie quote.
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16-02-2011, 10:46 PM | #16 | ||
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Not sure what the inspiration was for the front end, but I think Holden are onto a winner. The Captiva, much like the Cruze, isn't class leading, and doesn't particularly excel at anything other than in the value front, but it's a well rounded package, and while it lacks inspiration, it appeals to a large audience. And the sharp price will definitely help. It's up to the consumer now.
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16-02-2011, 11:13 PM | #17 | ||
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Still reeks of cheap for my taste, If I were in the market I couldnt justify purchasing one over a territory even with the keen pricing.
Quality over quantity for me!
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17-02-2011, 06:16 AM | #18 | ||
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Its tacky yes its a dawoo yes but you know what, I've driven one and thought it was better to drive than my Territory a we have one in our company fleet at the moment and I'm watching it with interest becasue well I wont be buying another new ford I love my fords always have but the last batch of company cars and the POOR after sales service we received nation wide, I'm not putting my self through it again
for the 1st time ever my company car is a holden and I chose it and well I love it, its had 1 minor warranty issue in 10000ks / 5 months and that was taken care of at the 3000km service my territory was back 5 times in the same preiod So sorry guys we keep bashing on about ford quality when in my experance it simply isnt there any more
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17-02-2011, 07:00 AM | #19 | |||
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17-02-2011, 07:31 AM | #20 | ||
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Exterior isn't as ugly as some make out to be but the interior is a little tacky, looks ok but full of plastics that will mark badly.
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17-02-2011, 08:04 AM | #21 | ||
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I don't think it looks that bad, i'd never buy one but i think Ford has a fight on it's hands.
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17-02-2011, 08:42 AM | #22 | |||
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Making cars that lack inspiration, but because of this there is less to dislike about it - therefore be bought by more people.
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17-02-2011, 12:17 PM | #23 | ||
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Holden is doing something very smart to make them selfs look good in a sales list..
The have a Captiva 5 & Captiva 7 which are 2 very very different cars in 2 different sales classifications. But they call them both Captiva & therefore get added together & the number all of a sudden looks better for Captiva.. Same thing with the new Spark, they put a Barina in front & now it gets counts as a Barina & not a spark, making the barina number look better when it too is a very very different car to the spark.. Games I tell you!! |
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17-02-2011, 12:34 PM | #24 | |||
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Many car companies do it. Landcruiser Prado, is another one in which the parent vehicle is different, but which an established name adds a lot of sales. Passat CC, Pajero IO, Transit Connect, etc etc. Its smart and cost-effective as building up a new nameplate can be very expensive and time consuming. Buying a car is a big financial and emotional decision, a lot of people find it reassuring buying a car which is well known. |
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17-02-2011, 12:35 PM | #25 | ||
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Imo, it's more modern looking than the new Territory.
It has the style which modern cars are going for nowadays, i.e. more angular shoulder line, raised bonnet, design wise there's just more happening with the Captiva. I wouldn't be surprised if it outsells the Terri, which in my eyes, just looks like it got a front-end treatment, with a new set of rear lights. |
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17-02-2011, 01:51 PM | #26 | ||
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Nup don`t like it and **** do they look like BA xr6 rims.
AS for Ford service yeah it needs a kick up the ***, but don`t think holden service is much better, your kidding yourself. |
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17-02-2011, 02:03 PM | #27 | |||
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Ford also scored way better in the service survey last year. Holden almost last. As for the Captiva itself, they suffered a lot of niggling problems. We used have electrical dramas on some before they were even delivered. |
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17-02-2011, 03:01 PM | #28 | |||
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17-02-2011, 03:02 PM | #29 | ||
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a daewoo by any other name is still a piece of cr?p, dont care what engine is in it.
I cant beleive how many people are happy to by these captivas and cruzes because they have a lion glued to the front. Yet no one in their right mind would have bought one if they still had daewoo badges on them. crazey times. |
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