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Old 15-01-2006, 06:20 PM   #1
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Default EF/EL Wagon to go 14.0sec

Hey there guys what kind of power would a ef/el wagon need to run low 14's?? (with a I6 4.0L)
How heavy would these cars weigh??
How would a wagon go with a DEV 4 or 5 engine??

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Old 15-01-2006, 06:26 PM   #2
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an EB wagon 1s around 1500 1600kgs. so i'd say EL would be 1600+
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Old 15-01-2006, 06:27 PM   #3
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also is it auto or manual
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Old 15-01-2006, 06:29 PM   #4
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Will be an auto - with either a Dominator or JMM 3000 stally
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Old 15-01-2006, 06:44 PM   #5
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Well DEv4 + 3.9:1 + 3000rpm Stall + slicks = 15.1sec. The AU S1Wagon is lighter than an EF/L Wagon, so you're going to need some real power to run 14.0 with an auto.

I'd forget N/A and look at turbo or a Vortech kit. Actualy use a KB or Whipplecharger, 14.0 will be a Walk in the park
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Old 15-01-2006, 06:52 PM   #6
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Old 15-01-2006, 06:54 PM   #7
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go and read the "13 sec N/A EB" thread
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Old 15-01-2006, 08:45 PM   #8
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you have to be realistic. low 14's are going to be hard and expensive to get out of an auto six cyl 5 metre long wagon.

qtrs are all about power to weight modified by gearing. So you have started with the second heaviest model variant with the smallest engine and the worst gearing (auto with high gearing and diff ratio).

With enough time and money anythings possible but I think you will find it all too hard to get into the low 14's.
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Old 15-01-2006, 08:59 PM   #9
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neb got a 14.8 with a 3.27 diff and not a real lot of engine mods. although it is a 5 speed.
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