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Old 30-08-2015, 10:02 AM   #1
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What sort of "Father" would do this to his kids ?
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:07 AM   #2
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Mental case. Bet he has prior form as being being off centre. Bring back the men in white coats that ship these types off never to be seen again.
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This dog deserves mandatory 20 years to life, may karma strike him while he's locked up...
I really hope the little one recovers as best as possible in a loving environment far away from her so called dad...

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what goes around ......
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Oh the old 'mental condition' excuse....

So perhaps he doesn't know right from wrong then?

I have a simple test... While he is sitting in the dock unresponsive douse him in premium and stand there with a match. I wonder, will he protest that setting him alight is wrong, or will he just sit there 'unresponsive in his mental case stupor'???

I bet a baseball bat to the face full force will get him responding in no time.....
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Hmm easy tie to pole and do the same to him.
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This is unspeakable evil and should be dealt with as such...
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Disgusting.

He looks like a steroid junky for a start. So possibly in a drug affected state.
Can only presume he had plans to kill all his kids, then hise wife & maybe himself.

My guess would be that this outcome was the result of a cumulation of months of problems for this guy. No excuse for that behaviour though.

What a sick puppy. I'm sure there's a few boys in prison will set him right though.

Oh' & give a medal to the neighbor who choked the bloke out. Top stuff right there.
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He requires high velocity lead injection. What a dog!
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This dog deserves mandatory 20 years to life, may karma strike him while he's locked up...
I really hope the little one recovers as best as possible in a loving environment far away from her so called dad...

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If this is not possible, I hope she is spared a life time of pain, torment and frustration...
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A very bad one...
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Heinous , disgusting crime , such a weak thing to do to someone so defenseless, those poor young children must have been so confused. Those poor children need lots of love . God bless them.
That pig will have years to ponder his despicable act in some supermax
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That pig will have years to ponder his despicable act in some supermax
As long as they put him in general population with the big boys.
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Doubleview children allegedly doused in petrol by father discharged from hospital

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Two children who were taken to hospital after their father allegedly doused them in petrol and set their sister alight in the Perth suburb of Doubleview have been discharged from hospital.

A seven-year-old girl was burned when her younger sister was allegedly lit on fire by 43-year-old Edward John Herbert at a house in the early hours of Saturday morning.

It is alleged Herbert poured petrol on the three-year-old girl while she was lying in her cot in the middle of the night.

An off-duty police officer who lives opposite the house rushed to the scene and found the younger girl alight.

She remains in a critical but stable condition in Princess Margaret Hospital (PMH) with burns to her face and upper body.

The seven-year-old girl was discharged from PMH on Sunday.

The third child, a six-year-old boy, was not burnt and has also been discharged from hospital.

Police had earlier said he was being cared for by family.

Herbert made a brief appearance in Perth Magistrates Court on Saturday in connection with the incident.

He did not plead to five charges, including one count of aggravated grievous bodily harm and two counts of attempted grievous bodily harm.

Herbert is also alleged to have been armed with a knife during the incident.

He was shirtless, incoherent and humming to himself during his court appearance, and was held up by two officers and unable to respond to the charges due to his mental state.
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Something has gone wrong in this guys head. You don't have tattoos of your kids and then do something like this.

Not sure if it's drugs or some other thing but he's had a break from reality.

Hope the kids recovery. Very depressing reading this.
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If this is not possible, I hope she is spared a life time of pain, torment and frustration...
Every parents worst nightmare, it goes without saying mate..Hopefully it wont never come to that, Sophie Delezio perhaps can be her role model if she can pull through ok.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1227219777333

If ice was involved, state & national authorities must / should look at this event as a case study & beef up current legislation appropriately now.

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Oh the old 'mental condition' excuse....

So perhaps he doesn't know right from wrong then?

I have a simple test... While he is sitting in the dock unresponsive douse him in premium and stand there with a match. I wonder, will he protest that setting him alight is wrong, or will he just sit there 'unresponsive in his mental case stupor'???

I bet a baseball bat to the face full force will get him responding in no time.....
If the Guy is found to be of sane mind, and is found guilty, then it certainly would be a despicable act. Your lust for violence originates from???????
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If the Guy is found to be of sane mind, and is found guilty, then it certainly would be a despicable act. Your lust for violence originates from???????
I really dislike when people make calculated, pre-meditated decisions that takes several steps of rational thinking and planning only to say "I didn't know what I was doing at the time" and 'claim' to be mentally unstable.

It is a cop out and disrespectful to those that actually have mental issues.

Just think about what this guy would have had to do to burn someone. How many steps does it take? Did those steps need thoughts and a rational process of planning?

My lust for violence stems from the fact that most people would like to see the scumbag suffer in the same way he had made those around him suffer.

I have a 7 month old daughter. You already know what I would do to the guy if he broke into my place and did that to my girl.

What would you do?
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If the Guy is found to be of sane mind, and is found guilty, then it certainly would be a despicable act. Your lust for violence originates from???????
Not everyone has a kum-by-ah solution to a despicable act, sane or not. There is no excuse at all, no matter the state of mind. What Yellow Festiva states is a natural reaction to a situation that demands vengeance, not sympathy and understanding...
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Makes me ashamed that I live in the same town as this bloke,theres some real frootloops in perth... just burn him alive
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I would say it stems from outrage over the horrific crime perpetrated against a small defenceless 3 year old, committed by the very person who was supposed to protect her.
Then the fact that precedent has been set in thousands of cases like this where the perpetrators have claimed mental instability and have been given manifestly lenient sentences.

I did law for a few years (compensation mainly) and I can tell you, this kind of scum is on the increase, and the legal fraternity have form when it comes to getting their clients off irrespective of the gravity of the offence.
I can surmise that he will get off lightly as he's already been advised to plea mental incapacitation.
Meanwhile, this little angel who could never provoke this kind of attack lies in a serious condition, whilst the legal manouveres are being played like chess pieces.
Frankly, I'd be more worried if there was no outrage for such a heinous act of betrayal by a father over their own child, it would indicate normalisation of horror. I'm outraged too, and can see through this bastards contemptuous act to try and limit his sentence.
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I really dislike when people make calculated, pre-meditated decisions that takes several steps of rational thinking and planning only to say "I didn't know what I was doing at the time" and 'claim' to be mentally unstable.
OK, before anyone jumps down on what I'm about to say, be pre warned that I do NOT condone what the maggot in the OP has done and I would make him feel that same pain, anguish and future suffering that child has and is about to endure.

Now... this paragraph strikes me quite personally as I know when I've gotten angry that I've lashed out as well, and it's not cause I've taken rational steps to make that decision, so much anger dwelled up with yourself that you DO lose focus and an action becomes the only thing you can think of. For me time cools me off and I can return to normal function but far out even I'm scared of myself when I get angry cause I don't know what I'm going to do next.

The major difference is that I can stop, obviously this fool couldn't and took it too far.

If anyone wants to jump on me fine, if you want to take what you read the wrong way, fine. I'm telling you from experience you can and do lose focus and it does take professional intervention to help quell it.

Again, I DO NOT condone what this guy did.
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The major difference is that I can stop, obviously this fool couldn't and took it too far.
We actually don't know what happened to the dad to do this. We don't have all the information.

I dare say the guy is in quite a bad place and so are the kids and wife. This is a tragic situation all round.
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We actually don't know what happened to the dad to do this. We don't have all the information.

I dare say the guy is in quite a bad place and so are the kids and wife. This is a tragic situation all round.

I'd disagree. This maggot is coming from a selfish place - he's already going for an insanity defence, more worried about what's going to happen to him than what's happened to his little girl.
No pity for him, he tried to murder his three children in the most horrific way.
We have far too many FOR profit industries making some of the worst perpetrators out to be victims - where's the personal responsibility? When did substance abuse become a mediating factor? Whether it's steroids or ice, since when did we advocate usage as a means to diminish culpability? No one put this crap that scrambled his brain in his arm, his lungs or up his butt - he did.
Exactly when did this little girl commit such a heinous offence against her father to warrant him trying to murder her or her siblings and again, we're talking about attempted murder in a most horrific way - incineration. My only pity for him is that he won't feel the pain this poor thing suffered at the hands of this animal.

In the USA where judges are elected and need to maintain community standards to stay in office, an attempted child murderer would get either life or in certain states the death penalty - irregardless of mental capacity. The only way for this family to get on with life without the constant fear of him coming back is for this vermin to be removed from the living world.

In a perfect world, they should perform a colo-rectal exam on him using a 747 freighter as the camera. I'll fly it.
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I feel sympathy for how this situation came about, but no sympathy for this POS after the fact.
Something is definitely wrong that this act was the go-to under this rage condition.


Like Rapid_axe, I have had some flip-outs during my life, and while certain destructive thoughts can enter my mind, they are never acted upon. In fact they are probably the trigger to return to 'normal' now that I think about it.
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This type of stuff makes my physically angry.... I cant fathom how any parent would even consider harming their child (or any child for that matter)...

I look at my little boy, who is 18 months old, and could never hurt him... Ever... As a parent you are supposed to protect them, teach them things, be there for them...

I read/see these things and I just cant get my mind around it....
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