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If Ford Australia sold F150 (coming soon), Bronco, and Bronco Sport in addition to Ranger, Mustang, Everest in Australia, how appealing would this be to you?
It's very American - but that would be a really compelling line up I reckon. What do you think? What else would you add? Explorer, Lincoln Navigator? Would you be happy if FOA went with a big US theme to their range? (Interested if anyone has driven the new North American models, too. Smooth petrol/auto and full time 4x4 appeals to me, we do get a bit of this here with the new Jeep Grand Cherokee.)
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I'll be keeping and driving my Australian made Falcons until the day I die.
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Navigator vs Escalade would be interesting. I hate GM for how they ****ed over Holden but the Yukon is coming.
It probably makes more sense to do the Tahoe or Suburban than the Yukon. But they have constantly ****ed up so why differ from that? F150 is going to kill it around here ![]() |
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Yes it will be good to see more and more F150s.
We'll be keeping our Aussies too, but I came to realise one of the real qualities I love about them is the torquey 6 and buttery smooth transmission - it seems the Americans still make this.
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Wait until people get to drive the F150. They hammer and actually drive really well.
I certainly see room for the Explorer and would love to see the Expedition and Maverick. I traveled to the USA this year and their car market is quite different to ours. They don’t have a huge amount of mid size SUV’s like we do. Sure they are there but the sedan and coupe market is still alive. And of course the full size pick ups and huge SUV’s are everywhere. Honda seems to be doing pretty well over there too. |
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Bronco, Bronco Sport and Maverick should have been global models from the get-go. All would have market recognition no matter the country, and all would have been desirable propositions to those outside of the USA. But no, Ford really can't think outside of the box, that box being the US market. Shortsighted as usual.
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None of those models appeal to me, but another Falcon ?
Shut up and take my money
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Id keep my ute (or another T6 falcon) and buy a bronco.
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A new Louisville would be good.
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I’ve hankered over a full size wagon for years. Something big, comfy, powerful, seat 4 kids with ease. Seriously restricted market. Enter the king pin, Escalade. So I bought one. Cost as much as about 5 decent turbo territories. Bought it. Liked it. But it just wasn’t as comfortable as the R class it was replacing. And even with 300kw on a 6 speed, it wasn’t quick by any measure. I should write up a full review perhaps, the size was absolutely fantastic. Not too big to live with at all. Fuel economy want even bad. So I decided to compromise a bit of boot space for absolute comfort and power. And bought a gl63. Surprisingly perhaps, Same amount of space in 2nd and 3rd rows, just a bit smaller boot. But the yanks flagship is still some years behind German, or even Australian motoring. A 2011 top spec platinum Cadillac, was still nowhere near as well designed or refined as a 2011 Holden caprice. By a long shot. Which is a great shame, because the 2022 Cadillac v is prob caught up to comfort etc, but waaay out of affordable price range. Go on Franco, flame me, but I’ve lived with all the above mentioned cars first hand. I really really wanted the full size Cadillac to be better. The kids cried when I sold it because it was ‘so cool’!
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A Lincoln Aviator would have had me sell the Terry...but I could "settle" on an Expedition...
and if an F-150 could carry 1000kg in the back I'd consider... |
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![]() #metoo - but a rigid one, I wouldn't mind F150 but in povvo pack, bench seats, steel wheels, LWB, 5L V8 variation with the short diff ratio in 2WD. With a steel tray would be the tits for me for work. |
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Where are we going to park them?
With the average house size shrinking and garage space relative to that I'm seeing alot of people in the newer suburbs taking to on street parking already. Then theres shopping centre carparks with low overhead heights and minimum standard bays to pack them all in. Not against larger vehicles perse but it seems like a contradiction to whats happening in infrastructure planning.
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Super narrow street, You can't park on nature strip or you'll get fined - but you can legally park on the street. What an absolute cluster ****, can see it every time I drive by Sunbury and look at the new estates going up. |
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We had the carpark at work resurfaced and marked recently. It went from fatboy parking spots from the 80's to minimum standard spots of today. It was worth the price of admission watching the old boys swing the Landcruiser in like they had for the last 40 years only to realize **** this ain't going to fit! On the upside they can (sort of) fit an extra 50 vehicles in there now ![]()
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I’m in the country and generally parking is pretty easy. F truck and RAM owners just park in 2 or sometimes 4 car parks. ![]() New York City sure was tight on parking. I don’t think I saw a straight car parked on the street. Most had several battle scars. Why does it seem that the smaller the car the worse the driver is at parking? |
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They screwed up big time with Maverick and Bronco, particularly the Maverick.
Ford USA still has this mindset when it comes to the rest of the world. ![]()
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For cars, I always laugh when someone from Ford or GM talk about their product being of "global" quality or "globally competitive" when said product is not sold outside of the US market. To me that is just so arrogantly ignorant, almost as if they consider America to be "the world" and the only ones that matter.
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Resourced Honeywell away to a Chinese supplier who makes a copy of their product that is better than the original, best decision I ever made, actually receive our goods on time rather than lead time + 150 days, cheaper and the quality is better. Chinese suppliers actually want to do business, American ones don't care about anything outside of the US. |
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Compare that to say Hyundai, Mazda or Toyota, they seem able to launch a car on a global basis, spread across a month or two, not a year or two! And quality on an American built Ford? Ha ha ha, what quality? Ask any Endura owner about their experience, I even had a customer tell me that his new car was replaced twice, so third time lucky? And don't get me started on screwing cars together with body panels that align, everyone except Ford can do that.
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Unless it’s blindingly obvious/bad, I don’t believe actual quality factors significantly in a vehicle choice for most people.
It’s just part of the nonsense people spout. We’re constant victims to faddishness, to social pressure and marketing, and will try to couch our capitulation in statements of pseudo-justification. As Australia becomes increasingly redefined by an ingressing population who would rather be [what they imagine is] American, it makes perfect commercial sense to accommodate their leanings. |
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They always seem so devastated.
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![]() ![]() lol .. i find that soo...o funny rocKWiz. americano's are always saying everything is BIG in texas ........ then you mention your comment above brilliant! many thanks for the laugh .. at their expense ![]() |
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Lot of old truck restorers on ATHS live in Arizona and Texas.
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I dunno whether Explorer/Aviator twins would get enough takers to make conversions viable. Super Duty F250 & F350 would be another possible choice but wonder if prices would be too expensive |
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Problem is with the conversion they're not cost competitive, but they offer a different point to the market. https://www.content.isuzu.com.au/new...-sales-record/ IAL dominates that segment and has for years, maybe Ford Australia should introduce a 'Ford Truck' range which has the Superduty that plays in the light/medium rigid segment - F600 has a GVM of just shy of 10 tonnes and could compete with the N series stuff, the point of difference being way more powerful engines. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 19-11-2023 at 05:11 PM. |
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I think we should just go left hand drive and switch to the right side of the road.
You’re welcome. |
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