Obsolete IRS Bushes

SVT8 · 03-02-2017, 12:26 PM

Hi Guys,

Getting all the bushes in the IRS overhauled but have hit a problem and wanted to know what others have done. Ford, superpro, nolathane, McKay, whiteline & pedders all do not make these replacements.

I'm chasing 2x front cradle arm bushes to the body, 2x rear cradle arms to the body bushes & 2X rear diff bushes.

Anyone know where I can get them (apart from a wreckers)?

Cheers

Trump · 03-02-2017, 01:09 PM

Tried calling a dealer to see if they have any?

SVT8 · 03-02-2017, 02:26 PM

No good mate, all obsolete. im thinking its going to have to go custom. I have sent an email off to kmac as they have some bushes listed for the au IRS listed.

**fordomatic** · 03-02-2017, 07:42 PM

I think forum member Peuty did all his bushes a couple of years ago. Maybe send him a PM and ask?

**FormulaFG** · 03-02-2017, 07:54 PM

Maybe take your old ones into a poly urethane shop and see if they can knock something out for you?

SVT8 · 03-02-2017, 10:12 PM

il probably have to end up doing that, but so will everyone else if thats the case.

**FormulaFG** · 04-02-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SVT8

il probably have to end up doing that, but so will everyone else if thats the case.

Ask them to make you a mold. Then you can sell them and make profit.

Maka · 04-02-2017, 01:20 PM

Ring Superpro direct, they should be able to help out in some way.

cheer's, Maka

BOTTLEDUP · 05-02-2017, 01:44 AM

I have the two bushes in the lower picture, but planned on using them myself. I can post the part number if that is of some use? I can also provide dimensions if that'll help.

SVT8 · 05-02-2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BOTTLEDUP

I have the two bushes in the lower picture, but planned on using them myself. I can post the part number if that is of some use? I can also provide dimensions if that'll help.

That would be great if you could and I can go back to bayford spare parts with a part number. Everything they list for AU IRS is obsolete but a part number may come up with something.

The bushes are currently being done at pedders and they tried sourcing all their contacts for over 4 hours with no luck. Pedders do an OEM style rubber replacement but as we found not for all bushes.

What's worse is I've had the whole IRS sand blasted and powder coated, but powder coated suggested to leave in all bushes (good idea at the time) as they will melt off in the powder coating oven to save costs on pressing them out.

So unfortunately I don't even have those bushes to go to someone to make a template out of. Might have to source a second hand IRS with bushes, get them pressed out then find someone who can fab them up to same dimensions.

mcfly94 · 05-02-2017, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SVT8

That would be great if you could and I can go back to bayford spare parts with a part number. Everything they list for AU IRS is obsolete but a part number may come up with something.

The bushes are currently being done at pedders and they tried sourcing all their contacts for over 4 hours with no luck. Pedders do an OEM style rubber replacement but as we found not for all bushes.

What's worse is I've had the whole IRS sand blasted and powder coated, but powder coated suggested to leave in all bushes (good idea at the time) as they will melt off in the powder coating oven to save costs on pressing them out.

So unfortunately I don't even have those bushes to go to someone to make a template out of. Might have to source a second hand IRS with bushes, get them pressed out then find someone who can fab them up to same dimensions.

Hows the IRS look after powdercoating?

SVT8 · 06-02-2017, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mcfly94

Hows the IRS look after powdercoating?

It turned out real good

**Peuty** · 06-02-2017, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

I think forum member Peuty did all his bushes a couple of years ago. Maybe send him a PM and ask?

I never want to talk about that job again.

Though the cradle bushes were fine so I didn't touch them.

SVT8 · 06-02-2017, 05:35 PM

Its almost becoming a nightmare!

Still no news, I have fulcrum getting back to me tomorrow. They were chasing this issue a few years back but nothing ever eventuated from it.

thexd351 · 06-02-2017, 06:54 PM

Hi Svt8, I have some new old stock Whiteline bushes in original packaging . Sorry I don't know how to insert the picture of them. Sent me a mail.

SVT8 · 06-02-2017, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thexd351

Hi Svt8, I have some new old stock Whiteline bushes in original packaging . Sorry I don't know how to insert the picture of them. Sent me a mail.

Hey mate, do you have any part numbers on these?

thexd351 · 06-02-2017, 09:34 PM

Hi SVT8,
5 packs ,Part numbers W63229, W62701,W62702,W62704,W62712.

SVT8 · 07-02-2017, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by thexd351

Hi SVT8,
5 packs ,Part numbers W63229, W62701,W62702,W62704,W62712.

Thanks for your help thexd351, however those part numbers listed are for the rear upper and lower control arms for the IRS.

Its the ones going to the body chassis and to the rear diff which are the ones missing unfortunatley.

BOTTLEDUP · 10-02-2017, 12:38 AM

dead_man00124 · 17-02-2017, 01:24 PM

any update on the cradle bushes from fulcrum?

NCII40 · 18-02-2017, 08:43 PM

i need these as well
Powder coating looks great, gonna have to do the same once out

KRL-94 · 25-05-2017, 10:28 PM

any luck?? theres a few people chasing them now.

SVT8 · 31-05-2017, 12:31 PM

ok, I did have some luck after a lot of hunting.

After getting a few 2nd hand IRS subframe's I got best condition bushes I could. Diff bushes are a crush type metal bush and cannot be reused. Rear subframe bushes had rust, corrosion and rubber damage. Fronts were just about all in perfect condition.

All bushes were drop off to super pro to see if they could match any of them up in their system. No luck with the front and rear subframe BUT great success with the diff crush type bushes.

BA/BF rear diff bushes are an exact fit for an AU IRS rear end. I currently have these in the car but you will require a longer bolt (bit of an issue with fuel tank in the way). Also this bush doesnt require a press to be pressed in. Simply grease up and tighten, these bushes expand when you tighten them.

As for the front & rear subframe/chasis bushes, I had to re-use from a second hand unit. Front ones are still quite good but rears wont last long but I got no choice as its a real one off style type of bush made from ford.

Good news though, these are already in production and infact in testing phases by super pro and will be out early next year!

TS50AU · 31-05-2017, 03:12 PM

Just a guess - I haven't measured, but I always assumed that the front subframe bushes would be the same as 4-link lower control arm front bushes? or even leaf spring front eye bushes?
Then again we know about assume - ta make an *** out of U and ME lol

SVT8 · 01-06-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TS50AU

Just a guess - I haven't measured, but I always assumed that the front subframe bushes would be the same as 4-link lower control arm front bushes? or even leaf spring front eye bushes?
Then again we know about assume - ta make an *** out of U and ME lol

We need to assume to even get an answer these days! With these bushes you would only require something in same length and outer diameter could be out by a few mm's as these bushes are clamped down with two bolts. This means it doesn't need to be a precise fit.

All 3 sets I got of these look near perfect, it looks like these bushes don't carry I high amount of stress & is sealed away from water damage fairly good also.

Edxr6 · 01-06-2017, 09:25 PM

SVT8,

I contacted Super Pro in Queensland yesterday myself inquiring about IRS bushes for my XR8, as the bushes in mine are shot.

The salesman I spoke to said their engineers indicated about another 6 months before all replacement parts for the IRS will be for sale to the public.

Need them badly for my daily. You can purchase rear sway bar links through White Line and rear toe link adjusters on Ebay, however I don't won't bits and pieces from different brands and companies.

Your IRS looks great.

Cheers

SVT8 · 02-06-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Edxr6

SVT8,

I contacted Super Pro in Queensland yesterday myself inquiring about IRS bushes for my XR8, as the bushes in mine are shot.

The salesman I spoke to said their engineers indicated about another 6 months before all replacement parts for the IRS will be for sale to the public.

Need them badly for my daily. You can purchase rear sway bar links through White Line and rear toe link adjusters on Ebay, however I don't won't bits and pieces from different brands and companies.

Your IRS looks great.

Cheers

Yeah it sucks cause I really don't want to be using second hand bushes but have no choice.

Reason why It takes superpro a long time to release their products is the testing they actually do on new items. Most of their products are lifetime warranty so they go through rigorous testing before releasing them to back this.

Fulcrum were telling me that expect to see these bushes redesigned better than factory, especially the rear subframe IRS bushes. How much they are going to cost is the other issue as their shock mounts are around $700 for the pair.

With all the upper/lower control arm bushes, its more the type bush. I used pedders bushes for the arms as they are a standard type rubber bush and not a polyurethane. No grease needed and will last a while.

Edxr6 · 02-06-2017, 11:25 PM

Yes, I seen the price of the shock mounts, ridiculous price. I hope Super Pro don't inflate their prices when their stock comes on the market.

Cheers

au350hp · 03-06-2017, 09:29 PM

I am starting to wonder if my plans to keep my au2 xr8 for good is worth while. It has low kms and none of the problems listed above but if you guys are having trouble now, what will it be like in 5 years time?

Edxr6 · 03-06-2017, 10:53 PM

Roostercam,

Keep it, you will be kicking yourself if you sell it. What else can you buy for the price you can purchase an AU XR8, they are great value for money these days. It's just a matter of time before a few companies start producing IRS bushes, then the prices will become competitive and reasonable. It's only my personal opinion.

Cheers