Tips on driving safely with an lsd.

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 08:45 PM

I got my lsd retightened yesterday and it gets a bit hairy when I accelerate hard.The car goes sideways now and chirps on a few occasions..Normally it just accelerates hard forward but if it finds a slight bump on the road it seems I must back off the pedal.Is this normal for lsd owners?

FORDEBV8 · 07-09-2006, 08:48 PM

umm watch out when it changes road surface cos it can get a bit crazy if you no wat i mean ;) o yer and take it easy in the wet until u get used to it cos it can get real ugly real quick

MYLO_XR6 · 07-09-2006, 08:49 PM

go VERY slow at roundabouts in the wet.....i've learnt the hard and expensive way :P

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 08:52 PM

The car feels much better with it all working well.
It seems that the power is being transferred to the ground nicely and the extra push forward is a very welcome side effect. I will take it easy in the wet for sure until I get used to it. Driving it easy as I do 99% of the time it is fine. What other things should I be aware of ?

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MYLO_XR6

go VERY slow at roundabouts in the wet.....i've learnt the hard and expensive way :P

Really? What happens Mylo? The single spinner never had these reactions.

dansedgli · 07-09-2006, 08:54 PM

Are you sure you dont have a blown big block under that bonnet of yours?

Taking it easy should solve your issues.

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Are you sure you dont have a blown big block under that bonnet of yours?

Taking it easy should solve your issues.

Heheh far from it.Having raced xr6t's at wsid which pull 13.9's is a very humbling experience. I will take it easy. Just wanted to get away from some lights today and the thing angled towards the left..maybe I should check tyre pressures too.

nugget378 · 07-09-2006, 08:57 PM

Itll do 180's Stav :P if you give it a bootfull.
Seriously just normal driving,I wouldnt notice a difference.
I find a spool is much more controllable for hard driving (track) much more predictable in a slide than an LSD..

dansedgli · 07-09-2006, 09:00 PM

Opposite lock is your friend!

MYLO_XR6 · 07-09-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

Really? What happens Mylo? The single spinner never had these reactions.

my diff is freaky

: ...i checked out the tag on the diff to see whether its single or LSD, it turns up to be single spinner....but no matter how many burnouts i do, wet, dry or dirt, the tyres both spin (LSD effect)

so, goin through a round about (early this year) on my way to KFC in the rain, car decided to kick its *** out without stepping on it. Couldnt control it and landed me head on in a brick wall.
2grand damage, but thankfully i had insurance.

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 09:01 PM

Tony ..I think I was being a bit too adventurous as I fanged it to overtake a commie and then it just felt a bit unpredictable. Maybe I should get a spool too....

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**Polyal** · 07-09-2006, 09:01 PM

Um Ive found that its easier to control a slide in the wet compared to a SS.

Actually, in about every condition its better isn't it?

LSD's rock

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MYLO_XR6

my diff is freaky

: ...i checked out the tag on the diff to see whether its single or LSD, it turns up to be single spinner....but no matter how many burnouts i do, wet, dry or dirt, the tyres both spin (LSD effect)

so, goin through a round about (early this year) on my way to KFC in the rain, car decided to kick its *** out without stepping on it. Couldnt control it and landed me head on in a brick wall.
2grand damage, but thankfully i had insurance.

Po yamoto....!!! are you alright??! Maye some leaky commodore dripped oil on the roundabout?

The same effect that I had today as you had mate.The rear likes to slide out and the car doesnt go where I wanted it to but I just let off the pedal and got control quickly...

MYLO_XR6 · 07-09-2006, 09:07 PM

haha, maybe??? I was fine.....although i did have an expensive lunch....hilarious driving into the KFC drive thru with a smashed XR6 asking for a twister combo :P
But im guessing my new FALKEN 18x245 tyres all round didnt help much.....$250 each and couldnt grip for ****! :(

nugget378 · 07-09-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

Tony ..I think I was being a bit too adventurous as I fanged it to overtake a commie and then it just felt a bit unpredictable. Maybe I should get a spool too....

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A spool would shyt you no end Stav,not for a daily driven car,I really dont like mine,but I have to have one,Id burn an LSD out too quick.
It makes the whole damn car shake in a sharp turn,reverse is painfull,and there a defect/illegal..

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 09:10 PM

Tyres and suspension are very important.My next tyres will need a aa traction rating. Anyway seems like this is just something I am gonna have to be careful with. The single spinner still gave me full control even the the ride felt sloppier.

S3SR · 07-09-2006, 09:13 PM

yeah and dont do any 5k clutch drops (or whatever you call them) either... i think mine needs a rebuild but it still both wheels spinning....

and yes roundabout in the wet.....very scary even when not hooning.

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nugget378

A spool would shyt you no end Stav,not for a daily driven car,I really dont like mine,but I have to have one,Id burn an LSD out too quick.
It makes the whole damn car shake in a sharp turn,reverse is painfull,and there a defect/illegal..

I am kidding mate...a spool in a car like mine just doesnt suit it.I am doing around 800 kays a week in Sydney so I wouldnot be able to live with it.

**Stav** · 07-09-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FALCONSR

yeah and dont do any 5k clutch drops (or whatever you call them) either... i think mine needs a rebuild but it still both wheels spinning....

and yes roundabout in the wet.....very scary even when not hooning.

So does your back end swing out too?

xbgs351 · 07-09-2006, 09:15 PM

One thing that can get you unstuck with a LSD is suddenly lifting off the throttle when the tail is a little bit out. It will usually result in a tank slapper. You are better off keeping your foot on the throttle even if the rear wheels are spinning or you can very gently ease off the throttle.

When you get used to a LSD there is no way you would ever consider going back to an single wheeler as the LSD gives you so much more car control.

nugget378 · 07-09-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

So does your back end swing out too?

If I start swinging my back end it gets slapped :nutsycuck
I want to see the wagon in a burnout comp now mate...

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**Bluehoon** · 07-09-2006, 09:38 PM

Stav, maybe not give it so much on the juice mate.....

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Dezza · 07-09-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MYLO_XR6

go VERY slow at roundabouts in the wet.....i've learnt the hard and expensive way :P

Very true. I spun going around a roundabout years ago, but I was lucky I didn't hit anything. Nobody else were nearby, and I missed the kerbs. The LSD in my car still seems to be in good condition, it's fairly tight. Since I've got a lot more experience in the car though, I'm much better at correcting the car when I get into a slide

FRDXR6 · 07-09-2006, 10:04 PM

Yep LSD gives you heaps more control and predictability compared to a single spinner.

When you launch too hard off the lights and spin the wheels the car will always kick out to the left, and as someone else said it can get a little crazy if your giving it a bit of throttle and the road surface suddenly changes.

But other than theres not much difference to a normal SS when crusing around the streets.

I dont know what you guys are talking about concerning roundabouts an LSD is fine around a roundabout just like any other car its only if your giving it or drive a car with 200rwkw+ that it might come out. Remember it only transfers extra drive to the other wheel when it senses the other losing traction so it should be fine, a locker however would be a different story.

You'll probably be used to the LSD by the time you read this post, one thing i notice between LSD V SS is that you can push your car so much harder through corners before it starts to break traction.

What size wheels and tyres have you got? I have 17x8's with 235/45/17 Bridgestones and they give awesome traction with the LSD.

gozza · 07-09-2006, 10:05 PM

I want and LSD...the single spinner in my eb is predictably unpredictable..... it will just spin the one wheel while the other grips and when you least expect it ..bam...its kicked out...

LUXO_8 · 07-09-2006, 10:08 PM

lsd is fun in the wet, specially with a shift kit......

once you get used to it you'll notice that lsd is so much more controlable and predictable than an ss diff.....getting the power to the ground is another bonus

Dezza · 07-09-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FRDXR6

What size wheels and tyres have you got? I have 17x8's with 235/45/17 Bridgestones and they give awesome traction with the LSD.

I've only got 15" turboblades on my car. They had Bridgestone tyres, and in the wet, it was like a dog on lino. Now I have Yokahamas, and the grip is awesome.

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

lsd is fun in the wet, specially with a shift kit......

once you get used to it you'll notice that lsd is so much more controlable and predictable than an ss diff.....getting the power to the ground is another bonus

That's the thing. When you aren't used to it, it can catch you out easily enough, but once you are used to it, it's very predictable.

ORSMEB · 07-09-2006, 10:16 PM

Yeah...LSD is a good thing...

**Falcon Coupe** · 07-09-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

I got my lsd retightened yesterday and it gets a bit hairy when I accelerate hard.The car goes sideways now and chirps on a few occasions..Normally it just accelerates hard forward but if it finds a slight bump on the road it seems I must back off the pedal.Is this normal for lsd owners?

My GT grips and goes straight with lsd, but it only has 255rwkw.....

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Firefox7 · 07-09-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

I got my lsd retightened yesterday and it gets a bit hairy when I accelerate hard.The car goes sideways now and chirps on a few occasions..Normally it just accelerates hard forward but if it finds a slight bump on the road it seems I must back off the pedal.Is this normal for lsd owners?

Seems odd to me. My diff was acting like the above before I had it reset and shimmed up. Whenever I took off hard from a standing start I used get a little sideways drift to the left, and hard cornering was a pain because the LSD simply wasn't doing what it was supposed to. Before I ran the dutton Rally, I had my diff fully reset and shimmed up and it made a huge difference. Taking off in a straight line, the car goes straight and their is hardly any wheel spin, and cornering is smooth and presise and the grip is there. I think they torqued mine up to around 170nm where as before it was only 5 nm.

Cheers