What do you think my car would pull down the 1/4?

[blueoval]

Ok most of you fellas know the setup of my car. You know what its got and what power it pulls.

For those that dont, refer basic specs below:

AU2 futura
Raptor Supercharged 6 (standard motor)
SCT flash tuner
NON intercooled
194rwkw
over 500Nm at engine
3.45LSD
Auto stock converter with shift kit
18' wheels and tires


Anyway, it has got me thinking, what you think I'd end up pulling down the 1/4?

I know its one of those questions like how long is a piece of string, but give me a ball park figure, lets say perfect conditions, no wheel spin and trans is holding up well.

Vote in the poll

[FreddyDUZ747]

Low 13s at around 100mph.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by gilmore

Low 13s at around 100mph.

Thats quicker than I was estimating.

I was thinking a low 14?

[FTE72]

Yep, under those ideal conditions you described, would pull a low 13 anyday.
Gilmore is spot on.

[FreddyDUZ747]

You have the same RWKW as a XR6T but a little more torque.All this in a lighter car should reward you with a high 13 at least.If a 1.8Tonne BA can do a flat 14 then i think your a shoe in if you steer her well for a mid 13 easy.Your 60ft is going to be the trickiest part,good luck.

[needaXYGT]

low 13's

[blueoval]

Thanks fellas, thats a surprise if you guys think I can pull those times off.

I would have thought Id be good for a low 14 at best, but never in my dreams would I think a mid 13 let alone low 13's could be possible. :

I guess Im gonna have to go to the track and see what I can do.

Anyone else think Im being conservative, or realistic?

[The Monty]

Im going against the grain and saying a low 14, high 13, but at a decent speed, say 102-103mph.
No stall off the line on street tyres is going to hurt your 60's bad. If you make boost off the line, it will fry the tyres, if you dont, it will be slow as hell, and I would say youll get around a 2.3-2.4 60ft. Although your power will easily into a 13 or low 13, the way you start is going to have a big effect on the end time.
Just my 2c, disregard it if you will.

[5L]

i think it will definatley get you into a 13, but it will be a high 13. due to the auto gearbox with standard stall.

[Whoosha]

Mid to low 14s any better in street trim will be a bonus :

[redauxr8]

What 0-100 times are pulling?

[blueoval]

nah fellas, all this constructive criticism is good. I appreciate it. Gives me a good idea on where I could be lacking and possibilities.

The autobox, while not ideal, is still in good order and Id like to keep it for as long as I can. If I was to go for a high stall and a set of 3.9's or 4.11's I reckon the 60ft times would improve somewhat. Yes?

So far it seems like people are saying mid-low 13's if take off was perfect and car was on song. low 14's to high 13's based on auto slush box and boggy take off. And Low 14's and up if I screw things up royal? :P

[Mr Hardware]

Well blueoval you're certainly from the right breed. Too many people slap some forced induction on a 6 and instantly proclaim it's a ferrari beater. You think right. 194rwkw is some serious go, use that as a comparison. I'd guesstimate that the original XR6T's would have approximately that power at the wheels, and you've got slightly less weight, so i'd guess you'd be in the rough ballpark of where they are.

just read gilmore's second comment and i reckon it's on the money. I reckon if you don't do a 13.xx you'd be mega dissapointed.

[StealthAu]

With almost the exact same setup as you (full 3" system and 3.9s the only differance) I ran a 14.6 (From memory). But that was with a buggered auto, slipped badly in first and free reved for around 2 seconds between first and second. I'll be heading out to the strip again within the next month or so hopefully, see what happens

[blueoval]

redauxr8 - I dont know what 0-100 times Im pulling, Ive never run the car on the track nor had it run on a g-tech thingy. But it does spin wheels a bit then bog down a little when the go pedal is stabbed off the lights. I think that could have something to do with diff gears and stock cam?

Whoosha - yeah thats realistically what I thought based on current setup. The potential is there with the right diff gears as mentioned and a stall, plus a bit of weight loss maybe.

[Mont5.0]

i am guessing 14.5-14.0. can you give me the weight of the car?

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by StealthAu

With almost the exact same setup as you (full 3" system and 3.9s the only differance) I ran a 14.6 (From memory). But that was with a buggered auto, slipped badly in first and free reved for around 2 seconds between first and second. I'll be heading out to the strip again within the next month or so hopefully, see what happens

Will be keen to see your timeslip Brendan.

Mr Hardware - cheers mate. It certainly feels good but Im sure I will be taking on Ferrari's LOL. I guess Im a realist. Its good to be confident, but not to the point of being delusional.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Mont5.0

i am guessing 14.5-14.0. can you give me the weight of the car?

Hey mate, cheers for your estimate. Im not sure on the weight of the car. My guess is 1650-1700kg ?

[Mont5.0]

ok going off 1650kg and 194rwkw, my conversion calculator puts you at 13.98 under perfect conditions (ie-your major factor is going to be wheelspin). Hope this helps.

[The Monty]

Stall and diff gears would mean you would need slicks to launch, and you would end up with 2.1 - 1.9 60's.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Mont5.0

ok going off 1650kg and 194rwkw, my conversion calculator puts you at 13.98 under perfect conditions (ie-your major factor is going to be wheelspin). Hope this helps.

Yeah it does, cheers for that. Hmm thats not bad as a goal. But I do think a low 14 is more realistic. Anything with a 13 in front is a bonus.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by The Monty

Stall and diff gears would mean you would need slicks to launch, and you would end up with 2.1 - 1.9 60's.

eeek. you could be right there. I forgot about tire issues. But dont the tracks come prepared before you go for a run?

[Mont5.0]

not always. they only prep the tracks over here for big meets-not wednesday night street racing. you may get a half prepped track if you go the wednesday after a major meet.(at sydneys WSID that is)

[The Monty]

As a bit of a comparison, on the road, to 100, I can hold a stock (centre muffler removed) BA XR6t with a no stall, no traction loss start from either of us, pretty much door to door. I have 152kw, 410nm of torque, 3.9's and 3k stall.

[The Monty]

Originally Posted by blueoval

eeek. you could be right there. I forgot about tire issues. But dont the tracks come prepared before you go for a run?

Street tyres will be no good anyway. I cant launch my car on street tyres, ad it has a fair bit less power than you, although the stall and diff gears change that a bit.

[blueoval]

well I can only imagine what carnage I would do to the rears if a stall and some 3.9's were to find their way onto the car. lol

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Mont5.0

not always. they only prep the tracks over here for big meets-not wednesday night street racing. you may get a half prepped track if you go the wednesday after a major meet.(at sydneys WSID that is)

thanks for letting me know. sucks but at least you guys have a drag strip. :

[FreddyDUZ747]

Run 15 or 16 inch wheels with a taller sidewall around the 235/245 size and drop the pressure to 20pound.The 18s are gonna hurt you unless they are a track tyre because of no give in the sidewalls.Just concerntrate on those 60s and the rest will follow.

When i started out in a gemini I would roast a set of new street tyres down to 10% tread and have a bigger tread pattern,only works on new bald tyres.If your running 245s or something only 205 is going to the road the rest is for water dispersion.technically still a street tyre and may help your ET.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by gilmore

Run 15 or 16 inch wheels with a taller sidewall around the 235/245 size and drop the pressure to 20pound.The 18s are gonna hurt you unless they are a track tyre because of no give in the sidewalls.Just concerntrate on those 60s and the rest will follow.

When i started out in a gemini I would roast a set of new street tyres down to 10% tread and have a bigger tread pattern,only works on new bald tyres.If your running 245s or something only 205 is going to the road the rest is for water dispersion.technically still a street tyre and may help your ET.

ah thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind when the time comes to take the beast down the strip.

[ayeyew]

I'd say 13.8-14.2 if all is well

I really think a low-mid 13 would be out of the question, but i would love to be proved wrong!