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Old 09-03-2023, 11:51 AM   #1
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More than 60,000 new motor vehicles – equivalent to almost one month worth of deliveries – are caught-up in a quarantine traffic jam on a scale never seen before in Australia.

The unprecedented bottleneck has forced thousands of customers stuck in the queue to wait even longer for their new car.

At least two-dozen car-carrying ships are anchored offshore or are in transit between ports – creating a pile-up at docks around the country – as expert cleaning teams struggle to treat vehicles for serious biosecurity hazards such as seeds and pests that threaten Australian agriculture.

Stevedores who specialise in car transport told Drive it normally takes 24 hours – working around the clock – to unload a vessel carrying 3000 new cars, disembarking approximately 125 new cars per hour.

However, quarantine cleaning teams can only process vehicles at a rate of nine cars per hour – during normal business hours – as the vehicles need to be thoroughly checked and cleaned....
https://www.drive.com.au/news/quaran...cars-stranded/
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It’s somewhat fair cop IMO, our biosecurity is in a parlous state and it seems nobody is particularly on the ball. Agricultural dependability (eg, food security) is absolutely more important than getting a new car.
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It’s somewhat fair cop IMO, our biosecurity is in a parlous state and it seems nobody is particularly on the ball. Agricultural dependability (eg, food security) is absolutely more important than getting a new car.
100% agree, getting a new car is nowhere near as important as maintaining our strict biosecurity rules. Doesn't take much for it to go horribly wrong if they start cutting corners, which I don't think they will do.
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It begs the question, why isn’t there investment in high speed car washes that can spray insecticides for stink bug or chemicals for seeds, these bio threats aren’t going away.
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You'd need poison/irriadiate the entire car to guarantee everything is killed or sterilized.
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100% agree, getting a new car is nowhere near as important as maintaining our strict biosecurity rules. Doesn't take much for it to go horribly wrong if they start cutting corners, which I don't think they will do.
It's not the new bio laws that are the problem, it's the ports ability to gear up/add employees to handle the workload that is the problem.

They would have known long before it came into effect it was going to require extra work, but did nothing to cater for it. Blind freddie could have seen this coming.

Apparently they are panicking now and trying to bring on more employees to cater for it. Should have been done months ago.
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It's not the new bio laws that are the problem, it's the ports ability to gear up/add employees to handle the workload that is the problem.

They would have known long before it came into effect it was going to require extra work, but did nothing to cater for it. Blind freddie could have seen this coming.

Apparently they are panicking now and trying to bring on more employees to cater for it. Should have been done months ago.
The usual short sightedness that goes on, sleep walk from catastrophe to catastrophe then only act on something once it gets media attention.
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There are issues getting staff. The rules around Covid vaccinations, people have gone to other employment where they don't need to be Vaccinated.
A guy I work with his wife is critical care Nurse at a large private hospital that has an emergency department 6 of her colleagues from her shift refused to get Vaccinated and quit. They are doing other jobs and have no intention of returning to the Health Sector.
A family member was a Medical Specialist he retired two years earlier than planned as he did not want the Vaccine.
A mate works in the Building Trade they have two former Paramedics working as Builders Labourers and have no intention of returning. They don't have to work shifts and put up with all the other crap that went with their old jobs.
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There are issues getting staff. The rules around Covid vaccinations, people have gone to other employment where they don't need to be Vaccinated.
A guy I work with his wife is critical care Nurse at a large private hospital that has an emergency department 6 of her colleagues from her shift refused to get Vaccinated and quit. They are doing other jobs and have no intention of returning to the Health Sector.
A family member was a Medical Specialist he retired two years earlier than planned as he did not want the Vaccine.
A mate works in the Building Trade they have two former Paramedics working as Builders Labourers and have no intention of returning. They don't have to work shifts and put up with all the other crap that went with their old jobs.
Lmao you can't blame the staff shortage and inability to get workers on the covid vaccine. There is a staff shortage because unemployment is so low. People can be picky with what jobs they do, I'm sure cleaning cars doesn't tick many peoples boxes.
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Certainly hope this doesn't affect the Ferrari I have on order
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There are issues getting staff. The rules around Covid vaccinations, people have gone to other employment where they don't need to be Vaccinated.
A guy I work with his wife is critical care Nurse at a large private hospital that has an emergency department 6 of her colleagues from her shift refused to get Vaccinated and quit. They are doing other jobs and have no intention of returning to the Health Sector.
A family member was a Medical Specialist he retired two years earlier than planned as he did not want the Vaccine.
A mate works in the Building Trade they have two former Paramedics working as Builders Labourers and have no intention of returning. They don't have to work shifts and put up with all the other crap that went with their old jobs.
It's utter madness that any business still expects people to have a nearly worthless vaccine. The insanity has to stop.
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It's utter madness that any business still expects people to have a nearly worthless vaccine. The insanity has to stop.
I thought it was only a few Govt. departments that still had vaccine mandates.

I don't know of any small to medium business which still does.

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Lmao you can't blame the staff shortage and inability to get workers on the covid vaccine. There is a staff shortage because unemployment is so low. People can be picky with what jobs they do, I'm sure cleaning cars doesn't tick many peoples boxes.
It is a legitimate reason. If a requirement of a job is to be vaccinated the people who are not vaccinated they cannot be employed.
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something wrong in Aus when there is a car carrier ship arrives every 3rd day in Auckland, and all cars shifted before next boat or so I am told. I know the new mayor is very shirty about all freight on main wharf when it could be turned into thousands of little ticky tacky apartments.
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something wrong in Aus when there is a car carrier ship arrives every 3rd day in Auckland, and all cars shifted before next boat or so I am told. I know the new mayor is very shirty about all freight on main wharf when it could be turned into thousands of little ticky tacky apartments.
He must want to model it on another useless non working port, $ydney.
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Mt Brown Auckland s new mayor is a tosser.

Yes Rockwiz on the money.

But Auckland doesn’t have a local second port option called Botany Bay.

Auckland port will be round a very long time.
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Imagine setting up Marsden point as main freight harbour, oh yes Mr Brown cirtinally Mr Brown.
He will be a one time mayor, but there ya go volentary voting..
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Other than hospitals, nursing homes and health workers and a few govt departments you tell us what private business is enforcing covid vaccines for employment as of now?
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Imagine setting up Marsden point as main freight harbour, oh yes Mr Brown cirtinally Mr Brown.
He will be a one time mayor, but there ya go volentary voting..
There’s nothing with setting up Marsden Point to cope with growth but gee Auckland port has two million consumers on its doorstep a real logistics fact that even idiots can’t ignore.


Brown made a fool of himself with the mishandling of the Auckland weather bomb.

Hipkins is the opposite from a long way away kicking goals even my national
Voting friends in Hawkes Bay are pleased with him.
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I was referring to a government job ie quarantine with my statement. I didn't say private business was doing it. But the fact that government business's still are is just insanity. There is simply no reason to do it, especially with nursing shortages.

Companies are still asking for vaxx status during interviews though. Heard a few cases of that recently with a friend who was looking for a new job. Makes no sense either. I'd still like to know how it is legal/appropriate to ask people for their private medical history. It never has been in the past, but since covid it's magically appropriate now apparently.
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I was referring to a government job ie quarantine with my statement. I didn't say private business was doing it. But the fact that government business's still are is just insanity. There is simply no reason to do it, especially with nursing shortages.

Companies are still asking for vaxx status during interviews though. Heard a few cases of that recently with a friend who was looking for a new job. Makes no sense either. I'd still like to know how it is legal/appropriate to ask people for their private medical history. It never has been in the past, but since covid it's magically appropriate now apparently.
The 92% vaccination rate has done its job in reducing the spread and severity,
so we’re in a completely different place compared to 2020.

The average 7 day deaths is now really low this month, last thing we need is infection on imports,
so annoying that wash down protocols have to stay because Asia can’t seem to control the spread…
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Serco. Over 10000 employees across Asia Pacific region.
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Certainly hope this doesn't affect the Ferrari I have on order
It's certainly screwing up my work! we have donor units for critical prototype builds tied up in this queue. In fact we are now flying cars in to jump to the front of the quarantine queue at >$100k a pop!
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I was referring to a government job ie quarantine with my statement. I didn't say private business was doing it. But the fact that government business's still are is just insanity. There is simply no reason to do it, especially with nursing shortages.

Companies are still asking for vaxx status during interviews though. Heard a few cases of that recently with a friend who was looking for a new job. Makes no sense either. I'd still like to know how it is legal/appropriate to ask people for their private medical history. It never has been in the past, but since covid it's magically appropriate now apparently.
Well if you were going for a professional driving position, say truck driver/bus driver I'd like to know your health history...and sadly any serious respiratory illness including covid/flu coupled with a existing heart/lung conditions doesn't go down too well...
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Well if you were going for a professional driving position, say truck driver/bus driver I'd like to know your health history...and sadly any serious respiratory illness including covid/flu coupled with a existing heart/lung conditions doesn't go down too well...
Unfortunately the private coach/charter industry is suffering a severe lack of drivers so apart from the medical requirements to pass/renew your heavy vehicle licence and passenger accreditation no operators can afford to discriminate you over your medical history or vaccination status.
I know of plenty of drivers who've had covid on top of existing respiratory/pulmonary histories.
We deal with large groups of international visitors everyday fresh off inbound flights and cruise ships.

I think you'll find its more to do with getting people to work in quarantine cleaning than facilities, its **** work for **** coin at a time when jobs elsewhere are apleanty.
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I was referring to a government job ie quarantine with my statement. I didn't say private business was doing it. But the fact that government business's still are is just insanity. There is simply no reason to do it, especially with nursing shortages.

Companies are still asking for vaxx status during interviews though. Heard a few cases of that recently with a friend who was looking for a new job. Makes no sense either. I'd still like to know how it is legal/appropriate to ask people for their private medical history. It never has been in the past, but since covid it's magically appropriate now apparently.
One of my former customers was demanding vaccination proof for delivery drivers dropping off goods to them.

OK then pick up your own ****
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My daughter is now at 15 months waiting for her Toyota CHR Koba Hybrid !! I have told her to tell Toyota yo cancel the order. Look elsewhere. But she wont. Its expected in June !!!!
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Well if you were going for a professional driving position, say truck driver/bus driver I'd like to know your health history...and sadly any serious respiratory illness including covid/flu coupled with a existing heart/lung conditions doesn't go down too well...
The large transport company that my workplace deals with only requires their drivers do the usual medical exam along with a drug test, no mention of covid vax or any other requirements.

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My daughter is now at 15 months waiting for her Toyota CHR Koba Hybrid !! I have told her to tell Toyota yo cancel the order. Look elsewhere. But she wont. Its expected in June !!!!
Tell her to get a Puma.
Honestly its a much better car and depending on spec cheaper.

but.... i know what its like trying to talk to rusted on toyota taxpayers.
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Tell her to get a Puma.
Honestly its a much better car and depending on spec cheaper.

but.... i know what its like trying to talk to rusted on toyota taxpayers.
She wants a hybrid.
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