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Old 10-11-2011, 06:17 PM   #1
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Talking Something in water....

I always knew there was something in the water at Elizabeth!!!

Ok its thinly related to automotive as it refers to the Holden plant...

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Holden warns of contaminated groundwater

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10 November 2011

CAR maker Holden has warned property owners around its Elizabeth assembly plant in Adelaide against using possibly contaminated groundwater.

In a letter presented to property owners the company said it had identified historical contamination under its site with the detection of industrial solvents previously used for cleaning metal parts and plastics.

Holden said it had found trichloroethylene (TCE) and perchloroethene (PCE) at identifiable levels in groundwater about 18 to 20 metres under the plant.

Low levels of both chemicals had also been found at the northeastern boundary of the company's property and of TCE at the northern boundary.

"The risk posed by these chemicals is low given the concentrations that have been detected," Holden told property owners.

"Nevertheless, we have notified (the) Environment Protection Authority (EPA) and are working with the EPA on this historical issue and are undertaking further testing and sampling of the contamination."

Holden said it was in the process of determining where to sink test bores and warned against the use of bore water for any purpose until further notice.

"Please be assured that your health and safety are our top priority," the company told property owners.

The EPA said it was previously notified of the contamination under the Holden site in February but had since been provided with further information by the company.

Acting chief executive Tony Circelli there were no bores on residential properties within the investigation area but there were some commercial bores.

"This further confirms previous advice from EPA and SA Health that bore owners should regularly test their bore water to ensure it is fit for purpose," Mr Circelli.

The EPA said Holden had also engaged occupational hygienists from the University of Adelaide to assess indoor air quality for workers at its Elizabeth plant.

It said this work was undertaken in buildings above the known plume area for the chemicals and the results found there was no unacceptable risk to human health.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:56 PM   #2
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"Historical chemicals". I would suspect any car plant, Ford included, would probably have the same thing. A holdover from the days when they'd tip drums of crap down the drains or hose down production areas..."environment? What's that?"...
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:33 PM   #3
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Very true. In the area between the stamping plant and the old plant 5, where a creek runs through, they used to dump all their scrap steel there, and a some of it was chemical coated, zinc etc. They dug it all up and got rid of it a few years ago when they were about to sell plant 5.

Also the old Product Engineering building which has just been leveled to make way for a Bunnings was quite heavily polluted. The cars they put in the crusher weren't even drained of fluids back then.

No one cared back in those days.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:39 PM   #4
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WE had the creek in Springvale (Vic) used to run through the old VW (later Nissan) plant, it would be a different color every week used to freak the old lady out when we would come home from playing in it and have our clothes covered in the colored gunk , but we survived nothing wrong with me me me
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:42 PM   #5
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Very true. In the area between the stamping plant and the old plant 5, where a creek runs through, they used to dump all their scrap steel there, and a some of it was chemical coated, zinc etc. They dug it all up and got rid of it a few years ago when they were about to sell plant 5.

Also the old Product Engineering building which has just been leveled to make way for a Bunnings was quite heavily polluted. The cars they put in the crusher weren't even drained of fluids back then.

No one cared back in those days.

Then they go from that to this:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/144775/f...-paint-sludge/
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:12 PM   #6
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WE had the creek in Springvale (Vic) used to run through the old VW (later Nissan) plant, it would be a different color every week used to freak the old lady out when we would come home from playing in it and have our clothes covered in the colored gunk , but we survived nothing wrong with me me me
ahhh so that is the reason for you have compulsive car disorder then

I remember riding down at the creek Bossxr8 is talking about and found it odd that some parts were alive and living when other bits were dead as a dodo
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:39 PM   #7
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I remember they tested the soil and found high levels of zinc and nickel, probably other types of heavy metals like cadmium, chromium and that sort of stuff too.

Cowies Creek it was.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:48 PM   #8
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Hells bells man, at leasdt they notified EPA god spare Holden if those beauracrtic numb numbs ever get on their wrong side
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Hells bells man, at leasdt they notified EPA god spare Holden if those beauracrtic numb numbs ever get on their wrong side

They'd get a slap on the wrist compared to if they had a serious OHS breach.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:43 PM   #10
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That explains a lot about the people that live in Elizabeth then...
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:22 PM   #11
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Come on, has anyone ever been up salisbury / elizabeth way. Go to the local shopping centre etc and you will see that Holden will be shitting bricks about potential court cases that could be bought against them. Who would walk around in a Holden t- shirt, tracky daks and ugg boots, if they havent unwittingly been soaking up trichloroethylene (TCE) and perchloroethene (PCE) over the last 20 years.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:52 PM   #12
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There have been a few instances like this recently round Adelaide. The first one I think was the hills hoist factory.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:36 AM   #13
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That explains a lot about the people that live in Elizabeth then...

well im glad someone put two and two together...
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"Historical chemicals". I would suspect any car plant, Ford included, would probably have the same thing. A holdover from the days when they'd tip drums of crap down the drains or hose down production areas..."environment? What's that?"...
it's sounds pretty minor compared to the dumping ford was accused of in the USA (dumping barrels of toxic sludge down an old mineshaft).
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