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Old 09-01-2007, 12:28 PM   #1
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Default Au Fairmont engine swap

Just Recently i purchased a 1998 Ford Fairmont Ghia V8 and am to say the least a little dissapointed with performance, however am about to come into some money through work and was wondering, if anyone new of any diffuclutys in replacing the winsor with a 2007 GT500 Crate engine, i realsie that not just the engine will need to be replaced...

i will need to upgrade brakes diff, tailshaft etc etc, but what about the chassis???


but having never done this sort of thing before a little advice i am searching

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Old 09-01-2007, 02:38 PM   #2
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hhhmmm looks like an interesting project keep us posted
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:51 PM   #3
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Just Recently i purchased a 1998 Ford Fairmont Ghia V8 and am to say the least a little dissapointed with performance, however am about to come into some money through work and was wondering, if anyone new of any diffuclutys in replacing the winsor with a 2007 GT500 Crate engine, i realsie that not just the engine will need to be replaced...

i will need to upgrade brakes diff, tailshaft etc etc, but what about the chassis???


but having never done this sort of thing before a little advice i am searching

Had any difficulty? I dont think that this is one thats been done....
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:55 PM   #4
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how much money are you getting from work? =|

it seems to be a considerable sum, so just go nuts on the windsor. supercharge/turbo it/whatever.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:01 PM   #5
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You talking about these?

2007 Ford 302 Crate Engines
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:20 PM   #6
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woah...
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:23 PM   #7
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no this is the engine, i will have approx $40,000 plus i can take and additional 20,000 on a loan if need be

this is the engine in question
http://www.hillbankmotorsports.com/p...ucts_id=100027
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:37 PM   #8
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It's a modular motor. Nothing in the AU is going to work with this. Tranny won't work, ECU wont work etc, etc.

Step 1 is to sell the AU.

Step 2 is to buy a BA/BF V8 Ghia to stick the new engine in.

Got to wonder if you're better off going down the local route and fitting a CAPA s/c kit to a local 5.4 BOSS motor. At least all the brackets will work with our RHD configuration.

If you really want to keep the AU you need to work with a windsor.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:41 PM   #9
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It's a modular motor. Nothing in the AU is going to work with this.

Step 1 is to sell the AU.

Step 2 is to buy a BA/BF V8 Ghia to stick it in.

Got to wonder if you're better off going down the local route and fitting a CAPA s/c kit to a local 5.4 BOSS motor. At least all the brackets will work with our RHD configuration.

Step 3, Stop eating donuts....
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:45 PM   #10
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I see... hmm now comes the interesting question for me... do i save a bit more, buy a mustang 06 gt and insert the engine........ the only reason i ask is that me old man just bought a boss 290 bf gt, as soon as i sold me transam

also what do you mean buy modular?
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:46 PM   #11
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also thankyou for you're assistance so for
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:59 PM   #12
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pinkster, may i ask what business youre in? 40k would help me a lot
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:07 PM   #13
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Yeah no worries im a Navy Man and i will be coming home from the gulf soon, inabout 2 weeks, also in 1 year i get my retention bonus
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:32 PM   #14
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Just my 2 bob but why not stroke the windsor and supercharge it, you wont be dissapointed performance wise. Of course thats if you love your AU. either way its ultimately your choice but you'll get some good ideas here.Just do your research and ask questions and you'll make the right choice. You lucky bugger. :hihi:
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:42 PM   #15
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Just my 2 bob but why not stroke the windsor and supercharge it, you wont be dissapointed performance wise. Of course thats if you love your AU. either way its ultimately your choice but you'll get some good ideas here.Just do your research and ask questions and you'll make the right choice. You lucky bugger. :hihi





I really do love my AU... you wouldnt be able to put me in touch with someone from wa like an engine builder, engineer etc over here in WA....

And To everyone so far, Thanks for all you're 2 bob's worth
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:44 PM   #16
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a1 high performance in myaree or kwinana performance.. chris mills. etc
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:05 PM   #17
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or get someone to buy you a copy of Perth Steet Car magazine - its chock full of local performance engine builders
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:18 AM   #18
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love the idea, i am sorta walking towards that option myself ...

first of all you can reuse the transmission with the new bellhousing and clutch, unsure about the tailshaft and transmission mounts, but assuming since u need to fabricate new engine mounts you should be able to place the engine in a position where transmission mount and tailshaft may line up. as for fuel system and new fuel pump would definately not hurt. As for ECU a standalone ECU of any kind will do the job just fine, even a Haltech E6X with semisequential setup and waste spark system will do the trick just fine.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:38 AM   #19
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get yourself a 351 windsor, stroke it, and slap a blower on it
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