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Old 04-02-2015, 09:32 AM   #1
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Since the introduction of the 308 in the mid 1970s, the entry level Ferrari has been powered by a naturally aspirated V8. That all ends today. Meet the Ferrari 488 GTB, a 3.8 liter turbocharged monster with 660 horsepower that gets to 60 in three seconds. I don't think Ferrari knows what "entry level" means.

We've known that this day has been coming for a while. Emissions restrictions are starting to clamp down on all automakers, and slowly but surely we're seeing the days of high-revving, screaming naturally aspirated engines biting the dust.

The 488 GTB is the first mid-engine V8 turbo Ferrari since the F40, and the numbers would actually put the F40 to shame. At 660, the new 488 GTB has about 200 MORE horsepower than the F40. Then it again, it also weighs about 1,000 pounds more than that legendary car (but 45 pounds less than the 458). That doesn't really seem to matter though, its performance makes the 458 Speciale now seem pointless.

Yes, 60 arrives in three seconds, the same as the Speciale. But that's where the similarities end. It gets to 125 in 8.3 seconds, a second faster than the Speciale. The top speed is at least 205 MPH. At Fiorano, Ferrari's private test track, the 488 GTB is a second quicker than the Speciale, and two seconds faster than the 458 it replaces.

Compared to the old 458, the 488 GTB looks more refined, smoother, and like a lot of time has been spent just making it faaaast. There are definite lessons from the 458 Speciale with the twin exhausts and even more active aero than the already crazy 458 had.
http://jalopnik.com/2016-ferrari-488...-it-1683354918
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:37 AM   #2
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:39 AM   #3
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Faultless, and this is entry level?
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:59 AM   #5
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:09 PM   #6
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:40 PM   #7
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I wonder why they called it 488, wouldn't 388 Have made more sense, 3.8l 8 cylinder?

How long until we see this on something like Top Gear with the McLaren 650S and Ford GT.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:26 PM   #9
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I suppose I would drive one if someone gave me the keys, under sufferance that it.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:27 PM   #10
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Whats the "B" designate? Always wondered this with the old ones

Same as the previous chassis with some revisions? Like a Mk2..LOL
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:30 PM   #11
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Isn't B for Berlinetta.
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:53 PM   #12
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Turbo??? shame they didn't just go bigger capacity.
Looks great, sell. sell.
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Old 04-02-2015, 05:00 PM   #13
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Thard specifically what they wanted to avoid. Lamborghini will surely follow suit soon
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I'll have one thanks.

Yep 388GTB should be the nomenclature
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:35 PM   #16
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sad to have turbos rather than NA :-(
looks awesome though!
Im sure you would feel the old NA version would be screaming fun where as this would be all too easy. Boring if you like...

Like driving a CVT auto Tiida compared to a manual Tiida!hehe
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I'd take the speciale! The last N/A Ferrari V8. It's a shame that Lambo took so long to release the Huracán, because the 458 was always a generation ahead of the Gallardo in every facet. So, while the single biggest change from the 458 to the 488 is a smaller turbocharged engine, the fact that it has 660hp and - as well as what one could reasonably assume to be - a massive increase in torque, at least performance wise it'll no doubt ensure that Lamborghini is once again a generation behind.
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@Cobra, Lambo a generation behind?
They choose to stay N/A. They have the ultimate parts bin for TT V8s ( audi ) and TT V10s. Hardly a gen behind just sticking to what the buyers of the brand like.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:13 PM   #19
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Beautiful car and I'm all for turbos. Whenever we talk about these sorts of car, we're talking about art on wheels that costs a stupid amount of money and goes stupid fast.

And yet some painting on a wall can still cost more
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Old 06-02-2015, 07:42 PM   #20
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chap in the UK on another forum I frequent has just put his 20k GBP deposit on his to replace his 458... expected delivery is summer 2016.

Im on the fence when it comes to Ferrari. I just cant love them. might be a great car but it just doesnt do anything for me....
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chap in the UK on another forum I frequent has just put his 20k GBP deposit on his to replace his 458... expected delivery is summer 2016.

Im on the fence when it comes to Ferrari. I just cant love them. might be a great car but it just doesnt do anything for me....
Why is that?
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He probably pulls enough chicks without the need of a Ferrari.
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@Cobra, Lambo a generation behind?
They choose to stay N/A. They have the ultimate parts bin for TT V8s ( audi ) and TT V10s. Hardly a gen behind just sticking to what the buyers of the brand like.
I don't wish to sound rude, but I think that you've missed my point entirely. What I said was that the Gallardo was a generation behind the 458, an indisputable fact given that the Gallardo was actually released a year earlier than the F430, the vehicle which preceded the 458. Notwithstanding the upgrades received to the Gallardo, it always remained a generation behind the 458.

With regards to staying N/A, your inference of what I said to mean that choosing to stay N/A was a decision which, in itself, rendered Lamborghini a generation behind, couldn't be any more incorrect. I never implied anything of the such as they're completely mutually exclusive from each other in this case. What I said was that performance wise at least, the Huracán would be a generatin behind the 488, given its 50hp and 50kg disadvantage - not to mention the increase in torque of the new Ferrari motor.

I don't know what Lambo will choose to do in the future. There's no doubt that in the future they too will be forced to conform to industry trends, mandated by governments to reduce carbon emissions and to increase fuel efficiency. Trends which have even forced Ferrari into going down the turbocharged route. But right now, thankfully Lamborghini have chosen to remain N/A. While this is great for the purust who, let's be honest, is the Lambo customers which you referred to earlier - the facts remain that it's tough for an N/A engine in a 50kg heavier car giving up 50hp and a heap of torque to keep pace.

As for the engines available to Lamborghini in the VW/Audi parts bin, there's no doubt that there's an array of engines available to keep them right up there with the best performance cars in the world. Right now though, they're about as relevant as the 5.8 trinity motor is if you're looking for an engine to shoehorn in a Falcon to compete with the GTS. It's there, but it ain't in the car! If and when the Huracán - and for that matter the Audi R8 - is fitted with the 4.0L TT V8 from the RS6, it'll be game on, and then some for Ferrari!
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