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GM’s Coyote hunter
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2577130015269B Quote:
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not exactly true, yes the plant upgrade's for future engine development RE 5+ yrears before you see anything.
in the short term 5.3Ltr DI cam in block VVT 2valve car. (not northstar) 6.2Ltr DI OHC VVT 3valve for light trucks.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/27/g...all-block-v8s/
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Taken from the boys over at LS1.com
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...estment-91366/ A very interesting read, whether to believe if there is any credible information I guess is another thing, but interesting nonetheless.
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ifs buts and maybes, typical GM talk
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One of the possible configurations...
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I still believe that GEN V is a cam-in-block (single) valve push-rod design with direct injection.
The motor will supposedly be based on the 5.5Litre unit that debuted at the Sebring 12hour in March underneath the bonnet of the Corvette CR.6 While that engine was a full 'race' engine, it still has the familiar Chevy small-block architecture with DI. The production version won't be with us until 2012 - not sure in what capacity it will be offered though.
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Threads merged and moved. Its not really coyote related.
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I'll believe it when I see it in a couple of more years. They've talked about DI, UltraV8, Gen5 for years already.
It's good to see them investing the tax dollar on updating the V8 though! With Ford's Coyote, GM will need to try to catch up.
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GM should call the new motor RoadRunner V8 ^^
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I can't see how this is a direct rival for the coyote, as the engine probably won't be ready for, what, 5 years? Coyote will have changed by then you'd expect...
I knew, eventually, GM would realize pushrods aren't always going to cut it..
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good news
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How long to they plan on continuing the GenX family? Surely at some point will come the need to tear up the whole architecture |
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GM might be right in their determinations that all they have to do is change combustion chamber, add DI and VCT to their small block, all of that may be true. I just get the feeling that they are designing an engine for now, not 2016 to 2020 fuel economy targets.
This is why I think Ford is in front of the curve with the 6.2 Boss and 5.0 Coyote, Ford knows that ultimately smaller engines and DI turbocharging will replace their large V8s but they need a transition for the technology glide path and that will be the blown Coyote and Duratec 35...... Ford are already way in front of GM, they know where they are going after Coyote.... |
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Gee they love pushrods dont they!
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Although interesting, i believe it when i see it.
GM news usually consists of: 1. Yes we will do it! Its Great 2. HEY EVERYONE! LOOK AT US! (Page 1 in wheels) 3. Yeah, actually we will do this, but with a slight variation. 4. No we will go back to the original idea, its great! 5. No, we wont do it at all........... (page 62 in wheels) ![]()
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@ ZA-289 = So do the guys with Cobra Jet 352 and 428 Mustangs
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Oh, I thought there was something of substance here for GMH. But it's just speculation.
Nothing to see here, move along. Lukeyson
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't GM just recently end the big block production at Tonawanda?
What they're calling the second engine line is in fact the new engine line. |
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again not shure if it was flint michigan or st louis missouri leaning towards st louis because of alloy heads that michigan was not equipped. 2009 is for trucks 8.1ltr
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More from gminsidenews:
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Rumour has it have the engine is also designed to accept DOHC heads on the same block. What GM should have (with the pushrod motor at least) is a very under square engine with very short pushrods. Sounds like they are designed to rev! Not to mention the design is partially based on GM's nascar engine. Dual Cam In Block is apparently unlikely but look at where the top cam is located on the DCIB pic above for an idea if the cam position. A "cam in cam" setup for VVT operations essentially makes a DCIB design redundant as GM only requires one block design for single cam VVT & "Cam in Cam" VVT. |
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Fascinating
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So to compete with the 'trollop' pedaling competitors Goauto has been puting out some pretty lame articles with not much point to them. Its just an attempt to keep up with the jones'. I can recall when people like ray martin did a current affair....everyone said he was a hack, not a real journalist. Then Today Tonight went so much lower and ACA followed and now given the choice, you'd probably want Ray back. At least SOME of his stories were newsworthy.... Same thing has happened to morning TV...won't find any real 'news' issues their niether....just the best way to deal with snotty neighbours, or eat gluten free, or wash your cat..... Some people think the car business is betraying its heritage with enviro cars, hybrid, electric etc. But its nothing on journalism. There ain't much proper journalism left IMO. Getting back on topic, i think its great GM are investing in a new V8 because its becoming pretty obvious the current lineup is getting a bit long in the tootch. Its a good motor but competitors are overtaking it and emissions regs will wipe it out in a few years. Its the latter i suspect that is making GM move in this direction. Interesting about the DI bit. Although Coyote is DI design protected Ford has said there is little gain in going this route at this stage. I wonder how GM will apply the DI tech RE meeting emissions standards but also making more power. Its good tech but needs to be carefully applied.....i hope they focus on a good base design first before putting all their faith in DI is all....
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