heads Up WA

[Green X]

Just a heads up for people in Perth, the idiots who run this state have now started sticking Red light cameras at Train crossings!! ???.

Don't ask me how that's meant to work as i always thought that's why there were Boom gates at crossings. Also you don't get any warning like at intersections, the Lights just start flashing Red, I guess they just expect motorists to Lock there brakes up a 60km/h who knows.

[feebs]

Poeple cross to the RHS of the road to cross the tracks.

Apparently it is happening quite a bit, so I am not against the idea.

Would rather that that have cops hiding behind unused earthmoving equipment on days when no roadworks in being undertaken!

[Green X]

So what set's it off, cause I was driving along about 1 hour ago, and as I got to the crossing the light's started flashing, as i didn't feel i could sensibly come to a stop from 60km/h i continued thou, the Boom gates had NOT even started to come down by the time i had passed thou, I spotted the camera and thought WTF is that meant to be, then spotted the sign on the other side of the road.

If I get a fine for this I will be fighting it.

[feebs]

I would say crossing over once the boomgates have started dropping.. but that's a bit of a guess.

[castek]

red light camera's are full of crap...

i was driving at 5:30am, raining, and down hill. came up to lights that were green. as soon as i got to the line they changed to amber. of course i'm not going to stop in 10metres, especially in the conditions. so what happens? i go through and two flashes. havent received anything in the mail but i will contest anything that does rock up

[SlikedTurb]

alot of people don't realise it, but the lights stay red well after the gates have come back up. you should see the abuse that gets thrown at you if you wait for the lights to stop.

i'm all for it.

[gazza750]

i think it will be to get people who start going over once boom is raised and lights are still flashing .
too many people take off b4 the lights have stopped flashing

[Eaglexr]

What is the problem?
These cameras are placed strategically for a variety of reasons.
You have to consider the remote nature of the cameras position,the police cannot always be present and this will give them some sort of idea as to what lead up to an incident should it occur.

[jaydee]

I think you'll find these are cameras set to catch people going around the gates or running the flashing lights as the booms are coming down or going up.
I don't think they're like red light cameras that get activated when you cross the white line when it's red. Haven't actually seen one yet but hard to say. Where was it Green X, I'd like to check it out, could it be a video type camera?

Here in WA, not sure about other states, the bells and red lights start flashing for several seconds before the booms starts to come down, about the same time thats set for an amber light, so theoretically you should have time to stop.

The reason the bells & lights keep going after the boom has gone up is just to make sure another train coming the other way doesn't trip the signals and suddenly start lowering without notice.

Anyone who drives around boom gates is effen stupid and deserves to get caught.

[Green X]

Kelven road (I think it is) in Thorny.

My feeling is if you are dumb enough to drive around boom gates and take on a 90odd tone of Loco you deserve to be killed.

[3vXT]

Originally Posted by castek

red light camera's are full of crap...

i was driving at 5:30am, raining, and down hill. came up to lights that were green. as soon as i got to the line they changed to amber. of course i'm not going to stop in 10metres, especially in the conditions. so what happens? i go through and two flashes. havent received anything in the mail but i will contest anything that does rock up

You were 10 meters away from the line, doing 60kph when the light went yellow and it took photos? At that speed, and being that close to the intersection, you're car should have been well past the camera before the light turned red so i wouldn't worry too much.

I can see the point of arguing about speed cameras but red light cameras are black and white to me. If the conditions are so bad that you can't stop or get through before they turn red, then you're going too fast for the conditions.

As for cameras on railway crossings... A fellow workmate once snapped the aerial off my toyota echo (work car) on a boom gate, so if it stops idiots like that then i'm not going to whinge about them.

[NGN 351]

I work as a paramedic in W.A. so here is my two cents worth. I recently went to a geeza slammed by a train. The patients head contents (his brain) was over about 6 square metres. A kidney here, a foot there...you get the picture. It was very messy indeed. In WA the boom gate only comes down one side of the road which is stupid. Other states have them come down over both carraige ways. These silly Pr!cks that break the law for what ever reason need the book thrown at them, its people like me that have to go and see if there is any survivor.
People cross over to the other side because " I thought it was broken and staying down". :
IMO back up and go find another crossing if you think its stuck down.
Silly people need to be finned into non existance...

[XR06T]

Originally Posted by ngn351

Silly people need to be finned into non existance...

bingo. who actually runs out infront of a train? as for driving around the gates, wtf! how long is the wait, 1 minute?

[Homer1]

Originally Posted by castek

red light camera's are full of crap...

i was driving at 5:30am, raining, and down hill. came up to lights that were green. as soon as i got to the line they changed to amber. of course i'm not going to stop in 10metres, especially in the conditions. so what happens? i go through and two flashes. havent received anything in the mail but i will contest anything that does rock up

How fast were you going? Might have been one of those dual purpose cameras which pinged you for speeding rather than running the red light as the lights were still yellow when you went through.

[Sorted]

They are starting to put traffic lights at train crossing with Boom Gates in Victoria as F'n STUPID ppl dont know they should stay stopped until the flashing red light turn off, not plant the foot when the boom gates are up. you have to wait till the lights stop flashing.

People still run the red traffic light as they are STUPID :

Love Red Light Camera's at train intersections - its only the stupid ppl who dont know the road rules that get pinged............ :

[3vXT]

Forget cameras, what the government should do is put high speed trains at all intersections to take care of the people running red lights

[P100 Ute]

Originally Posted by Green X

Just a heads up for people in Perth, the idiots who run this state have now started sticking Red light cameras at Train crossings!! ???.

Theyres one @ maddington train crossing across from Maccas.
one of the locals there recons it videotapes also..

i didnt even notice it till it was pointed out to me as i rarely go neer maddo

also spotted a WRX Cop car... full signage and lights... only spotted him coz he chased a Bike who did a wheelie off @ the lights.

that was only a week ago.
hopefully it saves lives.

Tim.

[Bent8]

Originally Posted by DRHEMI

They are starting to put traffic lights at train crossing with Boom Gates in Victoria as F'n STUPID ppl dont know they should stay stopped until the flashing red light turn off, not plant the foot when the boom gates are up. you have to wait till the lights stop flashing.

People still run the red traffic light as they are STUPID :

Love Red Light Camera's at train intersections - its only the stupid ppl who dont know the road rules that get pinged............ :

I don't think people are stupid, but they are frustrated with all the crap in this world and trying to survive day-to-day, increased traffic because of reduced speed limits and speed camera's everywhere and so on and so forth...

This is what makes people act irrationally, this is why people have no patience on the roads today and this attitude ultimately leads to accidents.

Our Govt's are basically owned by gangsters who have no interest in our public safety, that's why the road toll will never go down...sad but true.

But people can only take so much tyranny, before they realise the game and something snaps...that's when we'll wish we still had our guns!!

I'm all for saving lives but it's a very complex issue...

[gz1]

Originally Posted by gazza750

i think it will be to get people who start going over once boom is raised and lights are still flashing .
too many people take off b4 the lights have stopped flashing

If that is the case then this is clearly a case for revenue raising over safety. The cost of putting a camera up would be greater than the cost of adjusting the timing so that the boom gates do not come up until the lights stop flashing. But that would not generate any revenue.

Originally Posted by jaydee

Here in WA, not sure about other states, the bells and red lights start flashing for several seconds before the booms starts to come down, about the same time thats set for an amber light, so theoretically you should have time to stop.

Excactly. and theoricaly if you do not stop it should be the same as a going through an amber light. No camera infringement. At least in NSW.

Originally Posted by jaydee

The reason the bells & lights keep going after the boom has gone up is just to make sure another train coming the other way doesn't trip the signals and suddenly start lowering without notice.

Easily fixed by adjusting the timing of the signals. But as stated above that would not generate any revenue.

[Green X]

Originally Posted by XR06T

bingo. who actually runs out infront of a train? as for driving around the gates, wtf! how long is the wait, 1 minute?

If the Ppl who do this are not prepared to wate the 1 minute for the train to go by, and like i say are willing to take a chance with a 90ton loco moving at 70+km/h than a fine is hardly going to get there brain working correctly.

[octanebfgt2]

I can vouch for the fact that the cops don't care whether the boom gates have started moving or not. The lights just starting flashing as I was crossing a rail crossing and a cop waiting a set of lights nearby chased me and pinged me 4 pts and a few hundred dollars.

I explained there is no way I could have stopped and he said it is irrelevant and proceeded to explain that I did not have to pay the fine and could go to court if I felt strongly enough.

He was a complete Ar$eH0le. He was so stupid he wrote my Octane BF GT up as a Holden Commodore on the ticket.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by octanebfgt2

He was so stupid he wrote my Octane BF GT up as a Holden Commodore on the ticket.

Now there's an angle to go to court with

I used to laugh at the signs in Vic years ago (could be still there) which said 'GIVE WAY TO TRAINS'.. like... your going to argue?

[blueprinted_xr]

theres a few in the cannington area now, at the Welshpool Rd crossing is the main one i come accross

[NARCEA]

They're at Welshpool Road and Kelvin Road on a trial basis. Believe me, approaching Welshpool Road from Queens Park sitting on track speed (100km/h) and watching people trying to beat the booms gets my pulse racing at least once a day... especially fuel tankers! A single railcar at 94 odd tonnes doesn't pull up that quickly. To be honest with you, pedestrians are much worse, but it's easier to get them fined if they board the service.

Cheers

[SlikedTurb]

Originally Posted by DRHEMI

They are starting to put traffic lights at train crossing with Boom Gates in Victoria as F'n STUPID ppl dont know they should stay stopped until the flashing red light turn off, not plant the foot when the boom gates are up. you have to wait till the lights stop flashing.

People still run the red traffic light as they are STUPID :

Love Red Light Camera's at train intersections - its only the stupid ppl who dont know the road rules that get pinged............ :

couldn't said it better. SPOT ON!!!

[SlikedTurb]

Originally Posted by Bent8

I don't think people are stupid, but they are frustrated with all the crap in this world and trying to survive day-to-day, increased traffic because of reduced speed limits and speed camera's everywhere and so on and so forth...

This is what makes people act irrationally, this is why people have no patience on the roads today and this attitude ultimately leads to accidents.

Our Govt's are basically owned by gangsters who have no interest in our public safety, that's why the road toll will never go down...sad but true.

But people can only take so much tyranny, before they realise the game and something snaps...that's when we'll wish we still had our guns!!

I'm all for saving lives but it's a very complex issue...

that's the biggest load of crap i've ever heard.

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Now there's an angle to go to court with

I used to laugh at the signs in Vic years ago (could be still there) which said 'GIVE WAY TO TRAINS'.. like... your going to argue?

Hahaha, I just got an image of someone parked across the tracks with a train coming saying "he'll stop" Like a game of chicken...

[castek]

Originally Posted by Homer1

How fast were you going? Might have been one of those dual purpose cameras which pinged you for speeding rather than running the red light as the lights were still yellow when you went through.

was only doing 60. and my speedo is out, but it reads about 5 k's slower. so it cant have been for speeding.

[XR06T]

if you are in WA castek, there are no speed camera's with red light camera's that i know of. the red light camera takes 2 pictures, so there are 2 flashes.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by XR06T

if you are in WA castek, there are no speed camera's with red light camera's that i know of. the red light camera takes 2 pictures, so there are 2 flashes.

And from this they can work out your speed...ask anyone in Syd