xw gt engine is it real

corvettec4 · 20-04-2009, 04:02 PM

guys im asking this on behalf of a friend! who spotted an old xw up on the atherton table lands and enquired with the farmer about it! it had been smashed badly,vandalized and lots a bits pinched including plate and part of tower looked like had been cut with axe, the farmer had already pulled engine and box and stored, anyhow it was a gt so he says! he has since asked the old bloke about buying the motor, i want to know if it is a fake or not

block D2AE-OA/ 4A9 2 bolt 4v 351c

pad looks unmodified reads J G 3 3 R Y 1 3 X X 0 K

I WAS LEAD TO BELIEVE ALL GT ENG# ENDED WITH C

ANY HELP PLEASE

samsy351 · 20-04-2009, 07:17 PM

The fact that it has JG33 at the front says it is a GT block. ....and if my decoding is right a June 1975 block. A GT block , but not an XW GT one.

samsy351 · 20-04-2009, 07:27 PM

Are u sure the "R" is not really a "K" ? , because then that would make it a Feb 1970 block which would suit XW GT.

XR2DOOR · 20-04-2009, 07:41 PM

Tower Missing ,so She Still Lives Somewhere ,rebirthed

Walt Kowalski · 20-04-2009, 08:22 PM

Tablelands eh?

XW?

GT?

Ummmm

corvettec4 · 21-04-2009, 05:30 PM

sorry closer check of pics needed, it is a k

and is there any way i can check 2 see if someone has reused this engine #

i dont want any hassles later on? although i believe this is the original motor ! who knows what has been used,

corvettec4 · 21-04-2009, 06:10 PM

also what does everyong think the engine is worth, its been sittin a long time and guess will need full rebuild and saying its not a fake but a real gt donk

thanks for help,

XR2DOOR · 21-04-2009, 06:16 PM

i think you can do a revs check on it ,maybe the whole car see if its still getting around ,im sure it will be

samsy351 · 22-04-2009, 02:06 PM

If the tower and comp.plates were stolen , then guaranteed its been rebirthed somewhere !!

Busted · 22-04-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by samsy351

If the tower and comp.plates were stolen , then guaranteed its been rebirthed somewhere !!

Not true. my uncle many years ago (12) destroyed the plates and cut out the tower from his XW GT when it was stolen, rolled and burnt (no insurance) just so it could never be rebirthed. The engine ended up in a boat that he still has.

XR2DOOR · 22-04-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Busted

Not true. my uncle many years ago (12) destroyed the plates and cut out the tower from his XW GT when it was stolen, rolled and burnt (no insurance) just so it could never be rebirthed. The engine ended up in a boat that he still has.

i bet he regrets that

Busted · 22-04-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XR2DOOR

i bet he regrets that

I'd say no. It was a complete mess. The only way it could be repaired would be to rebody it and than its no longer a GT is it. He felt better knowing that some one would not be shafted latter down the track. I think he did the right thing. Imagine how you'd feal if you just forked out $$$$$$$$ on a GT thats not a GT. I know how i'd feal.

XR2DOOR · 22-04-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Busted

I'd say no. It was a complete mess. The only way it could be repaired would be to rebody it and than its no longer a GT is it. He felt better knowing that some one would not be shafted latter down the track. I think he did the right thing. Imagine how you'd feal if you just forked out $$$$$$$$ on a GT thats not a GT. I know how i'd feal.

i suppose ,but the tags are still worth big bucks as long as they dont fall into the wrong hands

cob115 · 22-04-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XR2DOOR

i suppose ,but the tags are still worth big bucks as long as they dont fall into the wrong hands

why would they be worth big bucks?,i reckon he done the right thing in destroying what was left ,so many tools out there willing to shart people

XR2DOOR · 22-04-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cob115

why would they be worth big bucks?,i reckon he done the right thing in destroying what was left ,so many tools out there willing to shart people

i dont know ,why is anything genuine gt worth so much

XR2DOOR · 22-04-2009, 03:20 PM

maybe theres some gt out there missing its tags that needs them

Busted · 22-04-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by XR2DOOR

maybe theres some gt out there missing its tags that needs them

But how would the tags from another vehicle help. Its still going to have the wrong details on them.

Busted · 22-04-2009, 04:13 PM

sorry for jacking your thread corvettec4.
sounds like your onto a GT engine to me. Its worth what your willing to pay for it. Its braging rites are wouth more than the engine as the only thing diferent to any other block is the first few numbures on it.

4Vman · 22-04-2009, 04:36 PM

Its only worth more than a std cleveland to the person who owns the original GT it came from.. to everyone else its just another cleveland, there's certainly nothing special about a std GT engine that cant be bolted on..

XR2DOOR · 22-04-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Busted

But how would the tags from another vehicle help. Its still going to have the wrong details on them.

i dont know ,but it would of been worth something ,even framed and mounted on the wall ,better than cutting it up

corvettec4 · 22-04-2009, 06:19 PM

guys thanks for the help
i have checked it with revs in qld its clean!! but where can i go to see if its in another car or is there a gt registry that i can look for the ##
and my brother now doesnt want it so ill buy it and after a call to the owner he has offered me the complete interior ,some is damaged but mostly good,

do u guys think it would make a good repo i found a good rolling shell already!
and no i have no plans to try and rebirth it!! it will just be a repo with a real gt donk in it, will it be worth more than one with a non jg33, if of course its done to a high standard? or will people just assume that the motor # have been faked
and because it going to be a repo what do u think about changing to 2v for better drivabilaty

gcg2503 · 22-04-2009, 06:24 PM

personally it wont be worth any more than another gt replica

wont have the 54h body

samsy351 · 22-04-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Busted

Not true. my uncle many years ago (12) destroyed the plates and cut out the tower from his XW GT when it was stolen, rolled and burnt (no insurance) just so it could never be rebirthed. The engine ended up in a boat that he still has.

In the original post it says: " it had been smashed badly,vandalized lots a bits pinched including plate and part of tower looked like had been cut with axe, "

Now that statement makes me think that it was pinched to build a fake GT

corvettec4 · 22-04-2009, 10:13 PM

well that was my concearn also however as i stated it is not showing on the revs register!

and i believe the old guys story! if he was trying to sell it and it was pinched they wouldnt leave the # on engine and i know if i had one pinched i would have reported it ! so not showing as stolen i think covers that, my concearn is that whoever got the missing bits may have rebirthed it and be using the eng# on another block!! and the car had the motor ,interior, box,diff removed after smash and apparently many years before the plates and external stuff went missing!! this is why i want to check

samsy351 · 22-04-2009, 10:38 PM

I didnt mean the old guy was selling a stolen car or stolen parts , I meant whoever stole the bits off his car would be rebirthing it somewhere else.

corvettec4 · 23-04-2009, 08:22 PM

i got that! were do u think i should search 4 the #

Gillgamesh64 · 12-07-2009, 11:23 PM

Fake or not i hope some one has put tham numbers into a new body and back on the road!!! I shuder like a kingswood when i think about anuther GT dissapeard forever!!!!
As for chopping up a set of compliance plates OMG......... I would take a bullet to save tham!!!! And i had nightmares all night (I was trying to weld the plates backtogether and thay burnt in front of me!!) I think i may need couselling!!!
But i suppose that is what happens when you love a good ford!!