Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Club and Speciality Forums > Forum Community Car Clubs > AU Falcon.com.au

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-07-2007, 07:20 PM   #1
tobiasm
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Default Stalling problems

I have just fitted another alternator onto my AU III, but the car is stalling when i turn the wheel or revving from idle. Any thoughts as to what may be the cause?

tobiasm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-07-2007, 07:31 PM   #2
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

power steering fluid is low, or the pressure switch has had it....do you mean if you rev it it stalls? or it revs on it's own?
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-07-2007, 07:58 PM   #3
tobiasm
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Default

If i rev it, it stalls.

Im not sure what the pressure switch is, is that contained in the power steering fulid unit ?
tobiasm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-07-2007, 08:20 PM   #4
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

nope, the switch is a round white thing located on the rack, where the high pressure hose from the pump connects to the rack...
If it stalls after you rev it i don't know what could be happening, but usually a faulty pressure switch will cause it to stall/run rough when the wheel is turned..

also if you rev it and hold revs does it stall, or is it only when you release the pedal?
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-07-2007, 08:43 PM   #5
tobiasm
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Default

Only when i release it does it stall. When i hold the rev its fine.
tobiasm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-07-2007, 08:53 PM   #6
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

ok i guess you disconnected the battery when you did the alternator? have you tried doing the ecu relearn procedure yet?
if not it's here http://www.aufalcon.com/cgi-bin/inde...f=techdocs/ECU
give that a go and see what happens then
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-07-2007, 11:54 AM   #7
all4fordau
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 98
Default

I agree with bodes-sh, when you disconnect the battery the ecu loses all of its operating information and takes a couple of days of different driving conditions to re-learn its settings. This can also be a good time to check the cleanliness of the idle speed control valve. It is an easy job. Just follow GKs thread in this forum somewhere. Be patient and the ecu will come good.
all4fordau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-07-2007, 11:57 AM   #8
all4fordau
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 98
Default

Heres the thread on the isc valve
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...9&postcount=43
all4fordau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-07-2007, 06:46 PM   #9
tobiasm
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Default

Thanks for the links to the threads and the help guys. Im about to go and give the ECU relearn a go & if that fails, the isc valve a clean.

Just a bit of extra info, it feels as though there as no power steering fluid in the pump & makes the noise as if there wasnt, but it is full. Is this to be expected & would the ECU relearn fix this ???
tobiasm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-07-2007, 08:02 PM   #10
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

sounds a bit strange about that, i'd be checking out the pressure switch, that's more than likely the problem with the steering, i don't think they cost much for a new one, and they aren't too hard to put on, it's worth a try and if it fixes it great
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-07-2007, 08:33 PM   #11
tobiasm
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Default

The ECU relearn did nothing to help, the steering problem is a little weird & has me thinking that it may be the pressure switch from what im hearing, although ive no idea where it is located. Can you give me a pointer ?

cheers again.
tobiasm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-07-2007, 09:01 PM   #12
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

it's the white thing with the blue plug and wire coming out of it
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-07-2007, 09:03 PM   #13
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

it's the white thing with the blue plug and wire coming out of it
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-07-2007, 10:33 AM   #14
Chippar
The Ancient Warrior
 
Chippar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Qld Border Ranges
Posts: 346
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tobiasm
Just a bit of extra info, it feels as though there as no power steering fluid in the pump & makes the noise as if there wasnt, but it is full. Is this to be expected & would the ECU relearn fix this ???
I'd be looking at the power steering pump itself. Sounds like it could be the bearing seizing up and putting a load on you motor while idling and also making that weird noise you mentioned.

You can check this by removing the drive belt and spinning the pulley and see how freely it moves and whether you can feel anything through the pulley or hear if it makes a noise (but on a lower scale) as you described.
Chippar is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-07-2007, 11:35 AM   #15
FGII-XR6
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
FGII-XR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Salamander Bay
Posts: 5,427
Default

may also be an air lock take it from lock to lock and hold it at each extreme 2 to 3 sec repeat 8 to 10 times
FGII-XR6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-07-2007, 05:40 PM   #16
tobiasm
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Default

Dont think it is an air lock, i tried the fix for that a few times with no joy, couldnt get the damn power steering switch out, the pump itself sounds as though it is fine although there is a small leak from the connector at the back.

I think ill just bite the bullet with this one & take it to a mechanic, its frustrating me a little too much.

Thanks to all who replied, ill re-post a little later with the outcome.
tobiasm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-07-2007, 10:20 PM   #17
all4fordau
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 98
Default

If the power steering pump has a small leak at the rear of it you can be certain that this is the reason your alternator failed in the first place. Nearly everyone who is anyone on this site has had this drama with the AU series and I highly recommend you repair this ASAP or you will be up for the cost of another alternator. Repco have a good replacement hose for these and are fairly easy to fit. But do it NOW!!!!
all4fordau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-07-2007, 07:51 PM   #18
tobiasm
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Default

Good news, Gave the ISC & throttle body a clean & shes good as new.

I had a look at the power steering pump and the O-ring on the hose leading into the pump is definitely degraded. I went down to the local auto store today & they said they would have a replacement O-ring in tomorrow arvo. Is just a new O-ring good enough, or would you still suggest getting a new hose ?? how much do they retail for at repco ??
tobiasm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-07-2010, 01:52 PM   #19
fordlover
FORD-LOVER
 
fordlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 173
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by all4fordau
If the power steering pump has a small leak at the rear of it you can be certain that this is the reason your alternator failed in the first place. Nearly everyone who is anyone on this site has had this drama with the AU series and I highly recommend you repair this ASAP or you will be up for the cost of another alternator. Repco have a good replacement hose for these and are fairly easy to fit. But do it NOW!!!!
Could you please tell us how much??? as my Au has the same problem a very small seap that needs to be attended too, or could get expensive in the long run?
__________________
bf mk2.5 ego xr6
fordlover is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-07-2010, 02:17 PM   #20
frd906
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: jimboomba
Posts: 4,638
Default

what a thread mine lmao, 3 years old
__________________
Welder/Fabricator at Beaudesert Exhuast

Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors
frd906 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-07-2010, 07:31 PM   #21
George V
Donating Member
Donating Member1
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 293
Default

Fordlover

Answer to your question is: - YES – get it fixed ASAP or you will be looking at a new alternator soon. There are many threads on this issue.

If you are handy with tools and an angle grinder / hacksaw, you can buy the hose attachment alone from Ford for a few bucks and fix it yourself.

Or replacement hoses are available from Repco or ebay (app $60).

Cheers,
George
George V is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-07-2010, 10:21 PM   #22
fordlover
FORD-LOVER
 
fordlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 173
Unhappy

Quote:
Originally Posted by George V
Fordlover

Answer to your question is: - YES – get it fixed ASAP or you will be looking at a new alternator soon. There are many threads on this issue.

If you are handy with tools and an angle grinder / hacksaw, you can buy the hose attachment alone from Ford for a few bucks and fix it yourself.

Or replacement hoses are available from Repco or ebay (app $60).

Cheers,
George
Thanks for that George, it's very much appreciated, will definitely get replacement hose from Repco & see if I'm competent/gutsy enough in the job or will have get assistance, blimey i just noticed it today alternator looks fine but geez I don't want to have to replace it, so i better get to it! after it gets a new lukey exhaust on tuesday...
__________________
bf mk2.5 ego xr6
fordlover is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-07-2010, 10:23 PM   #23
fordlover
FORD-LOVER
 
fordlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 173
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by frd906
what a thread mine lmao, 3 years old
woow didn't relise that the thread this old, I am new to this website
__________________
bf mk2.5 ego xr6
fordlover is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 23-07-2010, 06:31 PM   #24
fordlover
FORD-LOVER
 
fordlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 173
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by fordlover
Thanks for that George, it's very much appreciated, will definitely get replacement hose from Repco & see if I'm competent/gutsy enough in the job or will have get assistance, blimey i just noticed it today alternator looks fine but geez I don't want to have to replace it, so i better get to it! after it gets a new lukey exhaust on tuesday...
Went to Bursons earlier this week Wednesday & bought the hose kit; replaced it that night myself luckly I had a spare half drum of fluid, I didn't find it hard to do as it had instructions & jacked her up, cars all good!! now I'm very happy
__________________
bf mk2.5 ego xr6
fordlover is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 23-07-2010, 08:04 PM   #25
Stattic
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Stattic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,566
Default

The search function is there for a reason
__________________
Current
Blueprint 03 xr8
5 speed manual, Difilippo Quad Big Boy system, BPR CAI, BPR Custom tune, Underdrives
256rwkw

BA manual Typhoon
Fully optioned, 340rwkw@16psi (thanks Bluepower)!


The old ride....
AU Fairmont, cammed beast, R.I.P you made my p plate years bearable!
150.8rwkw courtesy BPR
Stattic is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 23-07-2010, 09:14 PM   #26
GasoLane
Former BTIKD
Donating Member2
 
GasoLane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
Posts: 53,197
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stattic
The search function is there for a reason
I think he used it to find this old thread.
__________________
Dying at your job is natures way of saying that you're in the wrong line of work.
GasoLane is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 24-07-2010, 12:14 AM   #27
falcontonner
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 44
Default

hey guys just reading bout the pressure switch and i unpluged mine as i put cruise control in, the new loom was off a v8 and didnt have a connector for it. havent seem to have any dramas yet. is there any problem with leaving this off?
falcontonner is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 07:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL