120.8rwkw!!

[ClassicAU]

Just thought i would report on how stoked i am at the latest results from my car! Chris from Bluepower put an edit into it and it now has 120.8kW at the wheels! Not too bad for a car thats basically stock still! Below is a link to a post in my workshop thread with the dyno sheet if anyone is interested. Cheers

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...1&postcount=35

[Casper]

Good stuff. How did you go at the Nats today? Smash that PB I hope!

[GK]

I posted on your workshop thread also Evan, but I'll say it here too, well done!

GK

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

well done mate!

The curve is great too. nice and smooth not wavy like ya pre tune.

Whats the next plan?

[ClassicAU]

Thanks guys, i am pretty wrapped! I did go to the Nats today, but the conditions were terrible and i was waaaay off my PB, by about 0.5sec! I could only manage a 16.2 for the day, which sucks cos the car felt a lot nicer yesterday just driving around. I think i will really need to get a trans cooler now that the shifts are a bit firmer. The next move performance wise will have to be an exhaust system, but that will have to be a few months away,

[Casper]

Thats a shame mate, maybe when the weather is a bit better the times will fall. Good to see you enjoying it though.

[Hords]

Good stuff Evan,
A >10rwkw gain just from an edit is great. Bet your hanging for that exhaust system now. Be patient and do the great research you,ve been doing. Be watching your workshop thread for your decision.

[Psycho Chicken]

AT vs IT?

[ClassicAU]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

AT vs IT?

If you are talking about something on the dyno graph, i have no idea what that is, i dont know how to read dyno charts! :

[HLC]

maybe he means before and after tune? i dunno.

but that sounds like a healthy AU motor!!!! i want a tune!

[bodes-sh]

ambient temp vs intake temp...
it looks like AT 16, IT 30 on that chart...

[ClassicAU]

Originally Posted by HLC

maybe he means before and after tune? i dunno.

but that sounds like a healthy AU motor!!!! i want a tune!

Cheers Henri, i was actually using your car as my benchmark, so the fact that mine made more power than yours means it must be good!!
If you get a tune into yours, it will become an animal!

[Pinkbits]

Well done young Evan!. I warned you about that tall streak of misery! :

[AU2PWR]

nice work ev, that Headwind was a Killer , but you guys should of seen the Smoke from his Prestage Burnouts , KILLER !!
Cheers
Daniel

[stiddy]

Dont mean to rain on your parade, but I think 120rwkw is a little on the low side.
But like its been said 83081 billion times before, dyno's lie.
ET's tell the real truth, hopefully next time you will get a run without the headwind and you can see what the Edit has actually done.....

Another thing, what is the go with the AT and IT.. looks a little shifty to me.

[HLC]

Originally Posted by ClassicAU

Cheers Henri, i was actually using your car as my benchmark, so the fact that mine made more power than yours means it must be good!!
If you get a tune into yours, it will become an animal!

hahah yeah :P i hope so.

[JC]

25 runs to get 10 rwkw. Chris is a patient man!

[EvilChief]

Originally Posted by JC

25 runs to get 10 rwkw. Chris is a patient man!

hehe

normally u do the tuning on the fly, ie do the tune by stepping through the rpm range bit by bit and adjsut mixtures accordingly. then when you are happy with what you got, you do a power run and look at the overall AFR

[ClassicAU]

Originally Posted by JC

Chris is a patient man!

Trust me, to have to put up with my constant noob questions, he is a saint!! :P

Originally Posted by stiddy

Dont mean to rain on your parade, but I think 120rwkw is a little on the low side.
But like its been said 83081 billion times before, dyno's lie.
ET's tell the real truth, hopefully next time you will get a run without the headwind and you can see what the Edit has actually done.....

Another thing, what is the go with the AT and IT.. looks a little shifty to me.

I dont mean to be rude or anything Stiddy, I'm just curious, how do you reccon its low? Have you seen other stock standard auto AU 6's pull higher numbers? Also, not that i know much about it, but whats shifty about the temp's? If it looks hot, all i know is that it was a warm day on friday.

Hey Henri, did you get a run in before the exhaust? If so, what was it?

[ClassicAU]

Originally Posted by SR_AU

nice work ev, that Headwind was a Killer , but you guys should of seen the Smoke from his Prestage Burnouts , KILLER !!
Cheers
Daniel

Your too kind Daniel!! I put it down to the rubbish tyres i had on the back. That and holding it in 1st, it doesnt seem to like turning any higher gears. Dont suppose you got any shots of my car at all?

[AU2PWR]

yeah i got a few, need somone with Broadband , my net is Sloooooow

[LG]

The tune will pull bigger numbers, when you have your exhaust & cam done ;)

Well done!

[ClassicAU]

Originally Posted by SR_AU

yeah i got a few, need somone with Broadband , my net is Sloooooow

You reccon you could get them into an email, or does it take too long to upload? If so, could you send a couple to ejb_84@hotmail.com
Thanks Daniel

Originally Posted by LG

The tune will pull bigger numbers, when you have your exhaust & cam done ;)

Well done!

Thanks Linz, i need an exhaust badly! I will be poor for the rest of the year, but at least i will have a smile on my face!! : As for the cam, its only a road car, so i am not wanting to go that crazy on it.

[stiddy]

Originally Posted by ClassicAU

I dont mean to be rude or anything Stiddy, I'm just curious, how do you reccon its low? Have you seen other stock standard auto AU 6's pull higher numbers? Also, not that i know much about it, but whats shifty about the temp's? If it looks hot, all i know is that it was a warm day on friday.

Actually yes I have seen some cars make the same power totally stock, usually from what ive seen stock auto AU I6's make around 115ish rwkw. In my eyes you've really only gained 5rwkw. Which to me is a bit low from an Edit. Agreed with LG though, you will get more from it with headers exhaust and re tune.
I said it looks shifty, look at the difference for christ sake, they are two seperate temp sensors...one lives somewhere in the dyno room (ambient), the other can be placed where ever the dyno operator wants it (ideally in the intake pipe/airbox), with an NA set-up you would expect little to no difference between the two... generally speaking, higher temps mean a higher "correction factor"....i.e. higher dyno reading.
Has that fixed your curiosity?
All I can say is maybe you need to get an explination from Chris as to why the IT is so much higher than the AT, and what it might mean for your overall power reading.

[xr8ute]

Originally Posted by ClassicAU

but whats shifty about the temp's?

The temps have raised some eyebrows because they are so different. Temperature is a big part of the "correction factor" of the dyno...higher temps generally meaning a higher correction factor/dyno reading (humidity and barometric pressure also come into play)

- AT is supposed to be ambient temp in the dyno room
- IT is supposed to be the temp of the air going into the engine. Ideally (?) between the dyno fan, and the front of the car.

So what does this mean for your dyno graphs? Well not alot at all without knowing some more information.

But in a nutshell...if the AT was the same for before and after runs, and the IT was the same for the before and after runs, then it means bugger all as the correction factor would have been the same for both (all else being equal).

[1TUFFUTE]

the sensor was probably sittin against the edge of the hot intake pipe. after 25 runs... :

[buickman]

Some Ford 6's might pull a few KW's than others stock. But with Pacemakers & 2.5 Redback you could add another 10-12rwk's so I think 120.8rwk would be about right for a car with a few Kms under its belt. At the last dyno day at Hallam you would have got a 2nd in the 6cyl class. Its a good result you have without the exhaust system.
6 CYL
OBRIZA EB 132.8 1st
GrimReaper VY 118.0 2nd
Nudge eb 113.8
Nudge II NA 111.9
EA2BA EA 106.3
Jamie 95
MX6MAD MX6 94.5
SnyperEB EB 74.9

[ClassicAU]

Thanks buickman! That makes me feel a bit better, not that i needed to. I always was, and always will be, stoked with the results i have. Its not just the power figure, its the whole feel of the car on the road. Chris also changed the shift pattern for the trans, and like i have said before he definitely knows what he is doing, as it just feels more lively. For a street car it feels great to me. I am happy, and thats all i care about.

I also thank stiddy and xr8ute for explaining the whole dyno reading thing, as i have no idea! I do agree there is a big difference in the temps, but i am sure there was some reasons for that. From what i have read though, not all dynos are the same, so i think if i put my car on a different dyno it may pull different numbers. Then again, everything on that car is original still and almost 100,000kms old, so i dont doubt it is less than other AU's around. But i am not finished yet, hopefully i will get the exhaust sorted soon enough, then i can just enjoy it!

[Futura01]

Classic au ,
good run will be alot better when you put on a good exhaust system . ;-)

[stiddy]

You can only gain more from here on in.. lol well thats the idea anyway :P