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17-02-2014, 07:31 AM | #1 | |||
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Ford production to fall to 80 cars a day http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257C7F001D873F Quote:
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17-02-2014, 09:27 AM | #2 | ||
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Wow. I remember when they were doing 520 a day.........
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17-02-2014, 10:32 AM | #3 | ||
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Sad days indeed, to be expected though.
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17-02-2014, 10:59 AM | #4 | ||
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Wasn't this announced a couple of weeks ago or whatever...?
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17-02-2014, 11:05 AM | #5 | |||
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17-02-2014, 11:18 AM | #7 | ||
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Is this a combination of sedan / ute and terri ?
So @ 25 of each per day. What's the split. Has falcon dived under 40 per day ? Production til 2016, how and why at this rate ? |
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17-02-2014, 11:40 AM | #8 | ||
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I remember when I visited the Mitsubishi plant in their final years and was on the assembly line I said to the SQA "oh so they are on a break?" as the assembly line appeared to be stationary. On closer inspection the line was moving but at a snails pace. It was disheartening to see as I remember the same place 10 years earlier was doing 280+ cars a days. I suspect the Ford plant would look equally depressing at 80 cars per day.
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17-02-2014, 03:56 PM | #9 | |||
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Especially with only producing 80 cars a day which would be unsustainable. |
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17-02-2014, 04:07 PM | #10 | ||
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One of these Fords being built now could be a good buy. Things going a bit slower along the line theres more time to assemble one with more care / less rush.
Or don't assembly lines work that way? |
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17-02-2014, 04:38 PM | #11 | |||
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In theory quality should be the same but who knows ? |
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17-02-2014, 04:53 PM | #12 | |||
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17-02-2014, 05:00 PM | #13 | ||
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...but less people to do the same amount of assembly work.
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17-02-2014, 05:05 PM | #14 | ||
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And done by people who know that in the "shockingly short notice period" of three fricking years that they won't have a job.
I mean, you'd hope they're going to do the right thing, but history shows what happens when a workforce has a loooong time notice that they won't have a job...think British Leyland, etc. Quality just goes downhill...fast. |
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17-02-2014, 05:08 PM | #15 | |||
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17-02-2014, 05:22 PM | #16 | ||
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I'm going to be an optimist. I think the vehicles they're building now will be better than average. Real gems with just that bit more care taken.
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17-02-2014, 05:43 PM | #17 | ||
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I have mentioned before that if things get really bad they might actually close down sooner than later.....Any of the BIG 3 of them that is.
BIG news like this changes peoples perceptions of the economy and it also makes people spend less and save more knowing that the future is bleak, so new cars are the first on the list of budgeting/saving for the future. |
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17-02-2014, 06:20 PM | #18 | ||
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why would anyone buy them when there not ever advertised , its self destruction , ford usa have wanted to shut shop here for years ,
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17-02-2014, 07:20 PM | #19 | |||
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But a significant number of magnas were being exported to the US as a "Daimante" (some times more than 200 a day) They didn't get an export contract with the 380. Was one of the main reasons they went down the gurgler... |
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17-02-2014, 07:57 PM | #21 | |||
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Seriously if you think otherwise go buy a Korean car and **** off from here. |
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17-02-2014, 08:17 PM | #22 | |||
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I am hoping this is what will happen up the slow down up to 2016/17. |
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17-02-2014, 08:34 PM | #23 | |||
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17-02-2014, 09:01 PM | #24 | ||
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Maybe the low rate also reflects the fact that people are holding off purchases until the new model arrives and the recent large bad news announcements on manufacturing generally. Hopefully things will pick up as the year progresses and FH production starts. I think production quality will also stay solid; the Mitsubishi 380s have proven to be quality cars notwithstanding the long tales of doom that haunted their production and I'm sure the workers will maintain the pride in their work.
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17-02-2014, 09:15 PM | #26 | |||
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The dedicated passionate veterans (the smart ones) all left early, they knew they had to provide for a family/future and went on the hunt for new employment at the get go, those that where left where the same ones my brother had had to keep kicking in the **** for years to keep them moving or getting to work on time, the best of the bunch had left long before closing time....(Edit: they had 12 months notice that the shop would be shutting up) The point I'm making is those that are smart, those that know they have responsibilities to a family's future or their own will be looking for secure employment now, not on closing day, and it is usually those responsible types that make up the better part of a workforce.... Again, I hope you are right....but!
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17-02-2014, 09:22 PM | #27 | |||
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And to those questioning the release of the FH - it will happen. Ford will have to pay back the government grants that were given especially for it if it doesn't eventuate. I think though, they will close up pretty soon after. Oct 2016 is a distant dream, especially when you have your PR guy providing a caveat like that.
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17-02-2014, 09:27 PM | #28 | |||
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hey wow! i was recently made redundant in vehicle manuf we all knew the tap on the shoulder was coming we didnt care, we were smashing out the highest quality vehicles right until the end with pride |
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17-02-2014, 09:35 PM | #29 | |||
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One could equally argue a smart responsible person would stay to the end to receive all the financial entitlements rather than throwing them away to chase a new job. Of course, had they had the "better qualities" of a work force, gaining employment at any later time shouldn't be a problem. I can also unconditionally tell you a company like this has already flushed its "dead wood" and will continue to remove the least value added employees first, keeping the best to the end. They still have a business to run and with a leaner crew its vitally important to have the right people remaining. A smart firm WILL NOT allow the best go first. In the case of the car firms, do you really expect folks to throw away an average of 150-200k net payouts. When does the average folk get an opportunity to HOLD 150-200k net in their hand ??? It goes much further than working 2-5yrs elsewhere to earn it in gross form. Only the dumb would not agree. Finally, everyone should have a little more faith in the mindsets / attitudes of the remaining workforce left to build the last of.
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17-02-2014, 09:58 PM | #30 | |||
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But you know better right? And do you think it's better to know you will be losing your job in the future, but who knows when, having it constantly running through your thoughts day after day or to have it done on the spot where you get a clean break and the chance to move onto a new job the next day. Walk a mile in someones elses shoes you absolute tool. |
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