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09-11-2016, 12:41 PM | #1 | |||
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09-11-2016, 01:26 PM | #2 | ||
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LOL...drone was probably stolen.
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09-11-2016, 01:27 PM | #3 | ||
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So I wonder how Domino's Pizzas are going to be reportedly delivering pizzas with drones from next year if the regs state that use of one within 30 metres of people, or used out of the line of sight and use over a populous area is illegal?
Maybe that does not apply to a CCA approved commercially piloted drone delivery service? |
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09-11-2016, 01:37 PM | #4 | ||
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nanny state at it again. that was hilarious and nobody was harmed. are ew not going to get steak knives at dinner because they are pointy, fine people when they make mistakes like cars but don't stop them from doing something relatively simple.
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09-11-2016, 01:58 PM | #5 | ||
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I agree its funny but...there is a potentially very dangerous side to all these drones zipping about in the hands of bogans.
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09-11-2016, 02:28 PM | #6 | ||
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Yep, someone flew one in front of a 737 landing at Perth airport.
If it went into one of the engines it could have killed 180 people. I'm all for having fun but there's a time and a place.
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09-11-2016, 08:13 PM | #8 | ||
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I love it, nanny state be damned.
If he gets fined I hope he crowdfunds. I'd donate. |
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09-11-2016, 08:37 PM | #9 | ||
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Bunnings snags are overrated.
Not worth $2 let alone $9000 |
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09-11-2016, 08:49 PM | #10 | ||
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09-11-2016, 09:13 PM | #11 | ||
Wait, what?
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This state is pathetic! Anything to get more money out of its citizens, the government should look to give him a job, dudes got skills!
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10-11-2016, 07:10 PM | #12 | ||
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Check out this news about a baby losing an eye to drones.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ball-half.html |
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10-11-2016, 09:00 PM | #13 | |||
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CASA is a federal government department so the money will be going to Malcolm's mates in Canberra.
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10-11-2016, 09:23 PM | #14 | ||
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Lol I remember I was up in Townsville sitting out back having a fair few too many and I see this rainbow coloured thing flying around in the sky. I said to my mate is it just me or can you see it too
A few weeks later there was a news article about CASA busting the person for flying a drone in controlled airspace. Which doesn't surprise me the planes fly right over his house. |
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10-11-2016, 10:36 PM | #15 | ||
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Personally I'm glad the CASA have done this. It's about time they grew a back bone and enforced these laws.
I say this as an Airline Pilot. There is very little worse than hearing a warning regarding uncontrolled/unlawful drone activity. With a closing speed of over 300kmph, I don't particularly want one going through my windshield on approach. These drones are regulated by CASA regulations. Unfortunately though, most private owners wouldn't have a bloody clue.
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11-11-2016, 09:19 AM | #16 | |||
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As an example, my brother in law is a keen quad racer. He has a favourite couple of patches around town that he technically is not allowed to operate in because he is within 3nm of two aerodromes. However, he very rarely exceeds tree top height in his operations. And when he does, it his maximum altitude would be less than 200ft above ground level. So the risk he poses to any aircraft operations, is extremely small, bordering on zero. And I say this as a recreational pilot that operates from one of the two aerodromes discussed above.
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11-11-2016, 10:44 AM | #17 | ||
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While stupid its very unlikely to kill 180 people nor much more than an emergency landing or birds would be an even bigger problem
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11-11-2016, 10:58 AM | #18 | |||
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I think you will find that bird strike is a more significant problem than people realise for jet engines. This is the reason for captain Sully having to land in the Hudson River.
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11-11-2016, 11:19 AM | #19 | |||
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In that case, the birds were Canadian Geese that typically weigh more than what the engines were designed for. So there were two "unlucky" incidents that caused the aircraft to lose power: the first was the double bird strike , and the second being that the birds were above design weight. On a multi-engined aircraft. the aircraft is designed to operate with a single engine as well. It is my understanding that, generally speaking, bird strike is not too much of a drama. Not something you would wish for of course, but is generally to too dramatic.
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11-11-2016, 11:43 AM | #20 | |||
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The damage that could be caused by a drone cannot be compared to a birdstrike anyway so let's just allow CASA to do its job and try to keep the sky safe for aircraft to operate in.
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11-11-2016, 02:55 PM | #21 | |||
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At the same time as not playing down the risks, we should not escalate the risks unnecessarily either. And I'm not trying to imply you have here, just pointing out that a balanced view is needed. Its pretty clear from the CASA website that CASA themselves have assessed the risks associated with RPAs weighing less than 2 kilograms as being far less than those over 2 kilograms. Not sure what you mean by the bolded part though?
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11-11-2016, 02:58 PM | #22 | |||
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Drones used by dick***** around airports are in the same category as Birds & Lasers and always a worry to pilots. Think our fellow member on here who is a pilot would agree with that. Planes that drop unfortunately usually end up with fatalities....
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11-11-2016, 03:01 PM | #23 | ||
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I see this whole episode as a waste of time because by the time he got his sausage, it was stone cold...
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11-11-2016, 03:39 PM | #24 | |||
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I agree, a balanced view is needed and that's why we can have a friendly chat here and get our opinions off our chests. My point behind the bolded part is that a bird doesn't contain metal parts and a high powered lithium battery capable of causing an explosion or fire if damaged on impact.
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11-11-2016, 09:19 PM | #25 | ||||
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Being invested heavily in this hobby myself I can see the fun at the time of doing it but I can also see the implications of his actions. These "toys" are becoming serious machines capable of incredible speeds. We recently tested a an ImpulseRc Helix on a 6s battery..... I wouldnt want something like this striking anything at these speeds....
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11-11-2016, 10:21 PM | #26 | |||
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Thanks for your input and you are correct about flying within the 5.5km zone being possible now under the circumstances you mentioned. I own one of these boys toys myself and just hope that someone doesn't spoil it for the rest of us and CASA tightens the rules again. I guess after 38 years in the aviation industry I have an overactive safety gland.
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11-11-2016, 10:50 PM | #27 | ||
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This whole thing is just a massive knee jerk reaction. No kittens were killed here people, nor were they ever likely to be.
We are massively overregulated when it comes to this kind of thing and yet there is no regulation in the selling of them, or is there? I don't know, but what I do know is that I can buy one from any number of shops in my local area without a licence to operate or proof of my ability to operate one, or proof of my knowledge of the regulations around there use! If they are so dangerous, why isn't the sale and operation of them more regulated? Why let all and sundry buy one and throw the book at them on their use after the fact? Hasn't the horse bolted in relation to the control of there use once it is in the owners hands? I suppose its a little like the car licencing system here. Let everyone get a licence and then fine the **** out of them. More money in it! Unless Sunbury has expanded to the point where it now borders Tullamarine Airport, there is no real threat to aircraft over Sunbury Bunnings either! In other news, shouldn't the local council be around to that residence to fine the resident within an inch of his life for not having of a pool fence around that hot tub? Kittens could drown in that thing! So irresponsible!LOL
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11-11-2016, 11:54 PM | #28 | |||
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We fly within a very close location of a helipad and we have had police and rangers come and see us whilst we have been flying. They have seen we are responsible, have a joyride and leave us happy knowing we are following the rules. We like to educate the public and we all carry spare screens with us so people can see what we do rather than what the media portrays and that we arent perverted window spotters that may unleash all hell as we fly around at 100km/h. Every negative confrontation we have had has been turned around and they have left smiling as we like to educate people as to what we do rather than what DJI flyers do. ;) This is why I am happy if he gets done for what he did. The rules are there to allow us to quite freely enjoy this hobby and the more people that cop a fine for flying dangerously the better in my opinion.
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This is why you dont fly over buildings and crowds, especially if you are nowhere near the area!
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12-11-2016, 12:18 AM | #30 | ||
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Donald Trump picks his snags up by drone so it must be OK....
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