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21-01-2017, 09:29 PM | #1 | ||
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I am interested in what people think of the drug testing in relation to marijuana only. The bulk of people getting caught are over 50yo and only testing to marijuana, not illicit drugs. Do you think driving with marijuana in your system is dangerous? Do you think it is fair that it is a criminal conviction if found guilty?
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21-01-2017, 09:34 PM | #2 | |||
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21-01-2017, 09:38 PM | #3 | ||
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Doesn't the drug testing test for all drugs? Why should it matter what the drug is?
You get caught you pay the penalty- regardless of age or substance. |
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21-01-2017, 09:39 PM | #4 | ||
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21-01-2017, 09:42 PM | #5 | ||
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Depends on the level in their system. It would be like someone having. Beer compared to 10.
But the poice dont test for levels so if its in the persons system then they will be convicted....which can be 4 days after smoking. If it was made legal then a level detection system would be required. But if a person is stoned and driving then they deserve to get reamed.....same as a drink driver.
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21-01-2017, 09:47 PM | #6 | ||
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Beer can be moderated. The whole point of hooch is to get off your face. Should not be on the road and should be charged with intent in the event an accident is caused...
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21-01-2017, 09:47 PM | #7 | |||
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Impairs reaction times, attention to the road Don't forget, driving a almost 2 tonne machine at speed is dangerous anyway, let alone stoned or alike If you have to have ya fix, do so but leave a good amount of time to recover. THC I think lasts for round 4-6 hrs but leave longer License is important right? So are peoples lives Do things right Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD
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21-01-2017, 10:34 PM | #8 | ||
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I don't know what it's like in the rest of the country but where I live methamphetamine appears to be the most common one being detected by police.
Almost every single driver that was detected under the influence of alcohol or drugs in this area this week was detected due to methamphetamine. Source: https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-poli...t#.WINGf_LmiiM |
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21-01-2017, 10:50 PM | #9 | |||
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21-01-2017, 11:01 PM | #10 | ||
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If I got stoned today , I am probably OK to drive to work on Monday morning. Rules and testing for Mull are stupid.
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21-01-2017, 11:15 PM | #11 | ||
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21-01-2017, 11:22 PM | #12 | ||
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So many people making comment with no idea.
believe it or not, most pot smokers don't even get 'off their face' as they've used it so regularly, unless they come across some high quality stuff, which is rare, it is nothing more than a slight buzz which lasts no more than 15 minutes and no where near enough to inhibit driving. In fact it becomes akin to a cigarette smoker and is more about the habit than the stone, so much so that they are often worse for concentration without it whilst trying to source it than once they get their buzz. I know plenty who've given it up rather than deal with the stresses of hunting it down. |
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21-01-2017, 11:24 PM | #13 | ||
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Just another way to raise revenue....people are probably more careful driving when there stoned ..an i think 0.05 is too low for alcohol i think coz we all love a beer should be 0.08 like N.Z laws an if you blow0.08 you pass not fail like our laws atm...people who are 0.05 have prob had one drink an thats to low for a country that loves a beer its part of our culture an us just much fairer
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21-01-2017, 11:31 PM | #14 | ||
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I think it gets tricky when you can drink & drive legally which makes light of driving impaired anyway you look at it. So, one person pulled over for random test has had 2 beers, blows .05 and is on his way. Another person, chooses not to drink & drive ever, gets detected the next day and ends up in court because it's illegal. They are both drugs, one is poison, one is naturally occurring. Who is the more responsible driver? The driver affected by fresh alcohol in his system or the sober driver with traces in his system?
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21-01-2017, 11:45 PM | #15 | ||
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Had a flatmate who would drive on pot.
By drive I mean crawl along at walking pace with the driver door open, and one leg out, 'walking' the car along. Admittedly, she's a bit of a minority. I've never seen pot affect anyone the way it got her. (Gibbering madly and screaming at everyone to get out because the cops are coming, refusing to go into her bedroom for weeks on end because the ghosts would kill her, etc). But quite frankly, if you're on something, stay off the road. |
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22-01-2017, 12:02 AM | #16 | |||
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Weed doesn't work that way, its not a hallucinogenic its a depressant if anything, you don't get high, you get low and relaxed. |
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22-01-2017, 01:43 AM | #17 | ||||
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It’s been years since I was stoned (marijuana) but I’d often drive afterwards and believe I was a cautious, attentive good driver but in reality I was probably a danger and today I would no more think of doing it than drink driving.
So if you are going to get stoned than make sure you don’t need to be behind the wheel for a day or so. One of the reasons it took so long for Mobile Drug Testing to be introduced was because the testing had to be able to detect the difference between recent use and residual effect. This is an abridged version taken from Transport for NSW Centre for Road Safety site. Quote:
http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov....ing/index.html This I lifted from the Alcohol and Drug Foundation for Victorian drivers and again is abridged. Quote:
http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/fact-...web-fact-sheet |
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22-01-2017, 01:47 AM | #18 | |||
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22-01-2017, 06:47 AM | #19 | |||
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It's not ******* revenue raising, it's trying to get dick heads off the street before they ****up someone's life (or their own) "Probably more careful, that's funny, they probably have to try harder to concentrate on driving but that doesn't make them better drivers or mean that their levels of concentration are higher than an in affected driver As for alcohol I'd have no problem with it being lowered to 0.02 across the board And before you ask, yes I drink, just when I do I don't drive
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22-01-2017, 07:00 AM | #20 | ||
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One conviction for driving stoned and another just for having illegal drugs in your system.
Time to focus on the users and not only the dealers. |
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22-01-2017, 09:09 AM | #21 | ||
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They did a show years ago that showed stoned drivers were more careful than one's sober I have a friend that has driven stoned for 25 years and has never caused an accident meanwhile I have another friend that is on anti seizure meds and stops at roundabouts when there is not a car in sight
They only test for meth and pot what about valium and other meds that turn you into a retard. Then you have oldies that are constantly mixing the pedals up.... and migrants / tourist that have no idea mates Vietnamese GF got her licease easier than my young Aussie friends and crashed her car in three weeks drove straight into someone on a roundabout. My GF Grandfather rammed another car didn't even brake he has still got his licease. |
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22-01-2017, 10:12 AM | #22 | ||
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22-01-2017, 10:23 AM | #23 | ||
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I just an interesting thought. If they are trialing medicinal marijuana does that mean people using it for treatment can't drive? I know the thc's get removed from the medicinal stuff and i have no idea how the test works. At the end of the day (my view of the matter) if it's illegal to smoke the stuff, then there is no reason you should be allowed to drive if they can prove you have been smoking the stuff. To a degree I agree that the most cautious drivers are those that either don't have a licence or are doing something wrong but know they are doing it and what they have to lose (not those ****ed as a fart or high as a kite). The worst ones on the road are those ones who aren't doing anything wrong, and think it's their right to drive because they passed a test once, who flat out cannot drive. Almost got unstuck by ignorance and entitlement yesterday on the drive home. I was on the bluetooth and cut my boss off mid sentence with f..F..F!!!!!. I'll leave it at that. It was close.
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22-01-2017, 10:32 AM | #24 | ||
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MDMA is the drug of choice at nightclubs etc.
It would be interesting to see the detection rates of MDMA on Friday and Monday morning on the way to work. |
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22-01-2017, 10:46 AM | #25 | ||
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How come they don't test for cocain? Because who will represent all the lawyers who now are the defendants ?That and its the problem with high society, weed is more of an issue with the working class. I'm not going to throw any of my political opinions on the matter in because will kill the thread, but if you aren't doing anything wrong then there is no stress doing it.
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22-01-2017, 10:52 AM | #26 | |||
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22-01-2017, 10:59 AM | #27 | |||
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Yes but can also exaggerate any paranoia or psychosis if the user is predisposed to those conditions which when behind the wheel of a car isn't good.
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22-01-2017, 12:07 PM | #28 | ||
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Drug induced skitzophrenia. It doesn't happen often with only social use, but it turns into the I don't remembers after something major has happened, and heavy usage. I have lived around people like that before. Not bad people, but when that are out of their mind it's difficult. Getting off the drugs helps, but people still keep some strange manorisms.
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22-01-2017, 12:17 PM | #29 | ||
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If it impairs, its dangerous, imo no "in between" here. I'm for zero grog in your system too while driving.
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