The I6 is to go, will this make you look away at other options for your new car??

05MkIIFutura · 13-07-2007, 08:32 AM

If the I6 is to disappear, will this make you look more closely at other options for your new car??

The Duratec 35 was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2007, produces around 50Nm less then the Barra I6 engine (in 3.5 form), but will be available in 3800 cc's info here

Info on the I6 here

ClevlndStemer · 13-07-2007, 08:45 AM

no it won't, i'd be disappointed though when the I6 goes but i understand why. It won't influence my decision on what car to get, many factors decide how i choose.

4Vman · 13-07-2007, 08:45 AM

The Title and poll doesn't make sence, the I6 being discontinued is just speculation at this stage.
If it was discontinued we would need to know what it was going to replaced with to answer the question!!

Casper · 13-07-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

The Title and poll doesn't make sence, the I6 being discontinued is just speculation at this stage.
If it was discontinued we would need to know what it was going to replaced with to answer the question!!

I agree. Without knowing what it will be replaced by its impossible to say how much of an impact it will make on a purchasing decision.. if any.

05MkIIFutura · 13-07-2007, 08:52 AM

You know it wont be a I6 - will it affect your decision??

Pretty simple concept.

Casper · 13-07-2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 05MkIIFutura

You know it wont be a I6 - will it affect your decision??

Pretty simple concept.

Too simple. You are basically saying that will the fact that Ford no longer have an I6 (if it even happens) cause someone to look elsewhere irrespective of what they replace it with?
I doubt anyone here is THAT attached to the I6. Its a good engine but its just an engine.

3vXT · 13-07-2007, 09:10 AM

Most of the reason i bought my BA over a comodore is the 4.0L engine. No mass produced small capacity V6 is going to have that much torque and sound like it does. If they do change to something like that i'll buy a 5 series BMW. The only local cars that interest me at the moment have the I6 up front.

EDIT: I'm not terribly attached to the I6, but when i was car hunting i had a very close look at the comodores of similar age and the only things that stood out for me were the styling and the engine in the ford. It was so close though, that i'm not sure i could've chosen between them if the engines were swapped, and if they both had a smaller capacity V6, i wouldn't touch either.

The pole question is a little speculative but its pretty likely that if ford drops the current 6, it'll get replaced with a smalller V6. If they are trying to get under the euro emission things they aren't going to release a 4.4 litre firebreathing inline six.
I dont think its stupid to gauge opinion on something that hasn't happened yet.

Casper · 13-07-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ken2903

Most of the reason i bought my BA over a comodore is the 4.0L engine. No mass produced small capacity V6 is going to have that much torque and sound like it does. If they do change to something like that i'll buy a 5 series BMW. The only local cars that interest me at the moment have the I6 up front.

So what if they replace it with a 220kw, 450Nm 4.0L V6? Will that disappoint? The thing is no one knows if it will be replaced and, more importantly, with what?

dac260 · 13-07-2007, 09:13 AM

so much for the days of cheaper and easier to install headers...who wants dual cats, yuk

**Polyal** · 13-07-2007, 09:13 AM

So who is saving to buy on of the last F6's when the time comes...LOL

3vXT · 13-07-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Casper

So what if they replace it with a 220kw, 450Nm 4.0L V6? Will that disappoint? The thing is no one knows if it will be replaced and, more importantly, with what?

that gets under the euro emission things? that would be some trick

I'd have a close look but i doubt it will happen.

mowog · 13-07-2007, 09:29 AM

Not enough choices in the poll and too far away to care about at the moment.

05MkIIFutura · 13-07-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Too simple. You are basically saying that will the fact that Ford no longer have an I6 (if it even happens) cause someone to look elsewhere irrespective of what they replace it with?

The present Barra I6 was a major selling point for my current car, i like the engine's characteristics of good torque and smooth power delivery, after owning a 3.8 Holden v6 they were very desired features.

With that said, yes, the fact that Ford no longer have an I6 (if it even happens) will cause ME to LOOK (not necessarily buy) elsewhere irrespective of what they replace it with. If I will find anything better on the market is another debate and not the question I am asking.

4Vman · 13-07-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Too simple. You are basically saying that will the fact that Ford no longer have an I6 (if it even happens) cause someone to look elsewhere irrespective of what they replace it with?
I doubt anyone here is THAT attached to the I6. Its a good engine but its just an engine.

Exactly..

irlewy86 · 13-07-2007, 09:47 AM

If they kill off the I6 I may salvage the one out of my xf and turn it into a trophy. You have to hand it to Ford, people have been expecting the big inline 6 to die for years but its still in production and still doing the job.

If they replace it with a V6 it would have to exceed the performance (in all area's not just power and torque) than the inline 6 otherwise it will be a waste of time.

-=FoRdEseries=- · 13-07-2007, 09:48 AM

im very sorry to say but it is true, they are very much so looking at changing, almost 100% positive that they are changing.....

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FORD Australia will retire its trademark inline six-cylinder engine and replace it with a smaller-capacity imported V6 within three years – after half a century of Falcon service – according to GoAuto sources.

here is a link: http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257315000E36BE

dallasv8 · 13-07-2007, 10:09 AM

well i didnt vote as the commodore and 380 are not a valid option for me.i will just continue to buy older falcons

or v8 ones

uranium_death · 13-07-2007, 10:11 AM

If I didn't want a V6 in the Falcon, why would I get any other car to replace it i.e. Holden, 380 or Aurion.

While it would be disappointing, that's life and like all things, we'll get used to it and long term, may even be glad that things worked out the way they did.

chevypower · 13-07-2007, 10:17 AM

If people are so obsessed with low-end torque, why is nobody talking about opting for a future diesel version?

**Peuty** · 13-07-2007, 11:10 AM

I now it has been covered in another thread, but why would Ford drop the I6 when they have received X amount of Government money to further develop the thing?

Doesn't quite make sense to me.

AS long as they don't drop the V8 they Ford can do what ever they want!

sexr6tasy · 13-07-2007, 01:02 PM

Yeh for sure id buy another car or just keep an old ford with an I6 engine

ED Classic · 13-07-2007, 01:13 PM

Sky News says more than 600 jobs could go as the engine could go within 3 years.

shockwave XR · 13-07-2007, 01:23 PM

personally i hope they keep the I6, i think its a great engine, and a newer V6 in smaller capacity wont have the low down torque.
i will look at different brands if they change engines

fordAU · 13-07-2007, 01:24 PM

Good reason for the "enthusiast's" to stop buying those toy 6's and get a real engine

Seriously though I wonder if it will make much difference in Ford's profit and marketing strategies, most fleet, rep, company car buyers wouldnt know the difference between an inline and v6 and probably don't care anyway.

Having said that its not a good thing when we look at the numbers of projected job loses.

andrewts · 13-07-2007, 01:27 PM

I'd still buy a Falcon. If I missed the torque that much, I'd get a V8 Falcon.

clontarf_x · 13-07-2007, 02:37 PM

What other people have said, especially to get a fairly weighty sedan off the line you need the torque. Unless of course IF they are replacing it with a V6 it was a decent bit of gear. Not like the 3800's in other cars...

Or I might just keep the AU XR6 VCT forever

Mikey · 13-07-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fordAU

Good reason for the "enthusiast's" to stop buying those toy 6's and get a real engine

Seriously though I wonder if it will make much difference in Ford's profit and marketing strategies, most fleet, rep, company car buyers wouldnt know the difference between an inline and v6 and probably don't care anyway.

Having said that its not a good thing when we look at the numbers of projected job loses.

Ohhhhhh! Thats not very nice is it? But i until they make the V8 perform and handle as good as the F6 then i'll cross back over. For time being i'm happy being up front... Ha Ha Ha!!! See ya on the road scaggg...

**Falcon Coupe** · 13-07-2007, 03:42 PM

Another Hypothetical poll...

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XR8-260 · 13-07-2007, 04:01 PM

I don't really care if it's a I6 or a V6 as long as it works well. A 3.8L V6 with 205kw @ 6000rpm and 370Nm @ 2400rpm mated to a 6spd automatic wouldn't be that bad

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feebs · 13-07-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

I now it has been covered in another thread, but why would Ford drop the I6 when they have received X amount of Government money to further develop the thing?

Doesn't quite make sense to me.

AS long as they don't drop the V8 they Ford can do what ever they want!

I remember this.. loads of money which I thought was to allow them to make it euro compliant.

If they ditch the engine, the gov should ask for it's money back!!

View Poll Results: The I6 is to go, will this make you look away fromat other options for your new car?
Yes, if the Falcon is going to have a V6, then the VE and 380 will be looked at	80	27.03%
No, the Falcon's will still be a good choice - a large car with decent kw and low $$	216	72.97%
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