BFII to feature improved fuel economy?

Falcon Freak · 21-04-2006, 10:30 PM

Link to GoAuto article

It can't come soon enough. I hope the touted fuel consumption improvements are achievable. It is likely that the VE model with more power and more weight to move will use more fuel than the VZ model. This should allow Ford to have the advantage in these very fuel conscious times.

FF

ClevlndStemer · 21-04-2006, 11:12 PM

like the holdens apparent thirsty ve, i'll belive the falcon to be economical when i see it. for now it's all with the flying pigs ;)

AnthonyQLD · 22-04-2006, 10:01 AM

maybe we will see the 6 speed auto across the range.

HLC · 22-04-2006, 10:21 AM

i got 11.5L to the 100 kays out of my AU I6 last tank. and what did the real figures say... 13 litres/100 or something? i dunno.

reading fuel economy numbers is all well and good. but its all gauged on your right foot. so saying that the new falcon has fuel economy of ~12L/100km is a crock. because really, everyone drives differently.

**Falcon Coupe** · 22-04-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

maybe we will see the 6 speed auto across the range.

That with e-gas would make a great family car.

YOOT · 22-04-2006, 10:54 AM

They need to offer the 2.7l V6 TD and that cool new 3.6L V8 TD as options. Imagine a 200kw 640nm Flacon that uses 7L/100km of Diesel. It woul dprobably cost a bomb though!

ED Classic · 22-04-2006, 05:53 PM

I would not be suprised if we see the 6 Auto across most of the range, including it as an option on XT.

Fairlane · 22-04-2006, 06:04 PM

Reckon well see those promised monotube shocks?

Most likely to be 6 speeder across the board (i think BTR is finished anyway), extra standard features and maybe a few more E-gas models and the diesel Terry (ok the last one probably wont happen).

Peronslly im hanging out for new e-gas model with direct injection and mono-tube shocks.

AUIII XR8 MAN · 22-04-2006, 06:08 PM

Well if they can use less fuel it might help sales pick up over the others.

MoreHPformyXR6 · 22-04-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairlane

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Peronslly im hanging out for new e-gas model with direct injection and mono-tube shocks.

What is direct Injection i have heard it is more economical? Can it be for petrol engines as well? If it is more economical why are we still waiting?

Fairlane · 22-04-2006, 06:15 PM

Woops should have worded it better, i meant sequential vapor injection for LPG. Gasoline Direct Injection is what your thinking of, what it does i dont know, but they use on a lot of JDM stuff.

vztrt · 22-04-2006, 06:22 PM

Ford will need to do something to capture the market as Petrol prices keep rising. Also with the VE coming out I reckon there will be some great surprises with the BFII. Ford have learnt (especially with the AU trouble) what the market wants and I'm sure the BFII will be a car that will impress customers.

Disco1986 · 22-04-2006, 07:49 PM

I think ford need to take advantage of thier Egas engine and imporve on that as well as more models!

Deanodriver · 23-04-2006, 02:16 AM

What I'd like to see is a diesel engine offered (the 2.7L V6 would be perfect, about 150kW and 440Nm) and the 6 speed standard throughout the range.

It would be really good as well if Ford put heaps of effort into making the cars lighter (perhaps by using some aluminium in their construction, even if it means adding a couple of thousand to the price).

mik · 23-04-2006, 02:36 AM

how about an egas v8 they would sell heaps i reckon

Kenaz · 23-04-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mik

how about an egas v8 they would sell heaps i reckon

Somehow I don't think so

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Twinpiston · 23-04-2006, 09:47 AM

I just want a confirmation first that their will be a BF II, it doesn't really say, it may just be a running update ie AU 1.5

Falcon Freak · 23-04-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by twinpiston

I just want a confirmation first that their will be a BF II, it doesn't really say, it may just be a running update ie AU 1.5

CONFIRMATION - THERE WILL BE A BF II. You will be surprised when you see it.

FF

Twinpiston · 23-04-2006, 10:00 AM

Some inside info their FF.....
What about an SY II?????

FPV8U · 23-04-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

CONFIRMATION - THERE WILL BE A BF II. You will be surprised when you see it.

FF

Im guessing some serious updates to battle VE but we'll have to wait and see...

Falcon Freak · 23-04-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

Im guessing some serious updates to battle VE but we'll have to wait and see...

Ford learnt their lesson from when the ELII model was slaughtered by the VT Commodore from Sep 1997 to Aug 1998.

FF

Twinpiston · 23-04-2006, 04:41 PM

C'Mon FF, is their going to be an SY II, please have some good news for me!!!

Falcon Freak · 23-04-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by twinpiston

C'Mon FF, is their going to be an SY II, please have some good news for me!!!

I honestly don't know at this point in time.

FF

freaky · 23-04-2006, 07:40 PM

any idea when the bf mkii will be out. wonder if it will coincide with the VE, or if its later towards the end of the year like december ?

ivorya · 23-04-2006, 07:45 PM

The new 3.6L Deisel V8 uses a new graphite composite block. Will we see this instead of the aluminium??????

Twinpiston · 24-04-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ivorya

The new 3.6L Deisel V8 uses a new graphite composite block. Will we see this instead of the aluminium??????

In what model though...

niko · 24-04-2006, 09:06 AM

ive never seen an average on a BA under 15/100 but then again all the ones i have seen have obese feet :P

Ringo · 24-04-2006, 09:35 AM

My 2 cents worth.

Reduce the capacity of the I6 engine to 3.8 litres or 3.6 litres by reducing the bore size, not the stroke, and tune the cam and computer for torque maximisation rather than outright kw.

6 speed auto across the range.

Expand E-gas range to Turbo & V8 models - performance without paying at the pump....imagine that !

E-Gas Terry over Diesel - Very little engineering cost to make this work surely and will help to oversome the Terry's weakness - fuel economy.

Falcons are not that bad for fuel ecomony now when you look at the big picture but in a side by side comparison of other 6 cyl sedan they come last for fuel economy....With VE and Aurion on the horizon I hope the Ford Management Team make wise decisions.

Gadgetman · 24-04-2006, 02:45 PM

The Aurion will make a huge impact on the local 6 six cylinder market. Toyota's marketing will see to it.

Iphido · 24-04-2006, 10:04 PM

Improved economy plan:
-Direct injection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_Direct_Injection ~15% improvement right there
-Lower drag (aerodynamic undertray ~.5l l/100km highway improvement)
-Lower weight (CGI block and suspension components ~50-100kg reduction)
-Slight engine tuning

If all of the above were used combined cycle economy could get down to 8-9 l/100km.
Combined with a injected LPG system avalible on all vechicals (except XR6T and XR8 Ford doesn't have the money to develop fuel efficent power monsters) Ford would have a extremely primed product line for a fuel concious market. If you do alot of highway driving you would find economy simular to a corolla. The city cycle will still drink, but LPG wins that fight. Injected LPG will also improve LPG range, economy, power, etc.