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Old 10-05-2008, 12:59 PM   #1
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well last night me and a few mates went for a little burn around town and after we decided to head off to maccas my mate noticed a puddle of water under my car as i took off. about 10 - 15km later we pulled over because my mate kept flashing his high beams and he said that he saw a puddle under my car when i took off before. Alarms went off and i checked the water levels and it was bone dry! I poured some water in and found a heater hose had burst, so my car had run at least 10 - 15km without water so i called the racv and they came and temorarily fixed it and i am replacing all the hoses today. I'm just hoping that no damage has been done to the engine!

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Old 10-05-2008, 01:11 PM   #2
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Get an Exhaust gass analysis test... same thing as a head gasket test really :P
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:15 PM   #3
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was just wondering if the engine has had it would a ba or bf engine fit or would it be too long?

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Old 10-05-2008, 03:13 PM   #4
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i reckon at the very least the water pump seal will be pretty second hand, how cold was it last night? and did the cylander shutdown thing happen?, last weekend i had fans out to do harmonic balancer seal to fix an oil leak, only to find out after spending hours getting the harmonic off with an unsuitable pulley remover :( the leak was coming from somewhere else :(, anyway my brother gave a hand to put the fans back in, the next day TOO MY HORROR an audible alarm sounded during a traffic jam caused by a rolled over truck, the temp gauge was in the red but coolant was still full and not boiling (but it must have been close, ........little brother had forgotten to plug the fans in, plugged the fans in and it cooled back to normal in less than a minute, it appears no damage was done, i`m thinking if it was a cold night you might be lucky, Blueprint has the right idea i reckon.
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These engines are pretty hard to cook. If it runs on petrol, then the failsafe cooling would have kicked in had it got too hot.

I think you will find that it's OK.
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this is what i was thinking but does anyone know if the cylinder shutdown runs on an internal censor in the engine or does it run off the thermo?

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These engines are pretty hard to cook. If it runs on petrol, then the failsafe cooling would have kicked in had it got too hot.

I think you will find that it's OK.
I agree with JC. You'll be right.
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was just wondering if the engine has had it would a ba or bf engine fit or would it be too long?

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will bolt in but needs a bonnet bulge. thats not the drama with a b sreies engine in an earlier model .AFAIK no one has sucseded in getting a b series 6 to run properly in an AU . the wiring and electronics are just not compatible . you can't hook the b series ECU up the the AU bem as the b series uses can bus which is a first in the falcon making communication between the older and newer systems impossible. an Au ECU won't run the dual VCT so that option is out,
maybe an aftermarket ECU will work but it would need to be able to run dual VCT

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I poured some water in and found a heater hose had burst, so my car had run at least 10 - 15km without water so i called the racv and they came and temorarily fixed it and i am replacing all the hoses today. I'm just hoping that no damage has been done to the engine!

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Good coincidence mate, I burst a heater hose in a car I bought last night as well!
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:26 PM   #10
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this is what i was thinking but does anyone know if the cylinder shutdown runs on an internal censor in the engine or does it run off the thermo?

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It would run off the ECT - Engine Coolant Temperature sensor, which drives the temp gauge as well as giving temp to the ECU. Engine itself should be fine due to cylinder shutdown. If the water pump is damaged at all (unlikely IMHO) you can get a Japanese one from Supercheap for 1/3 the price from Ford. You will need a new pulley for it though unless you have the right pulley puller to get the existing one off.
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and have fun getting the pulley off. Auto one sells a pump with pulley attached for $61.00. (or was 2 months ago.)
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:31 AM   #12
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or just buy a pump pulley put-er-on-er tool ..ABW make them which is a fairly well priced brand

and the pulleys are cheap as chips
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from Super Cheap and Repco they have the pulleys on them.
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from Super Cheap and Repco they have the pulleys on them.
Supercheap sell with and without pulleys, i was stung with this last time. LOL
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You would be surprised how much punishment these motors can take... I reckon you will find it is ok. We had a manual XR6 in at work with a radiator support repair, meaning the radior and ai core had to be taken out, one of the bright spark apprentices started the XR6, and ran off to the paint shed to clear a spot for it to be put into, then got side tracked, and left it running for a good 15 to 25 mins without coolant, and despite getting very warm, and smell like burning metal, it seemed to be pretty right. It is yet to come back due to any motor complaints, which we warned the owner about, and that was a bit over 12 months ago.
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just look for a "/WP" after the CWP0000(not correct number) number

indicates its with pulley attached..
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:39 PM   #17
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this is what i was thinking but does anyone know if the cylinder shutdown runs on an internal censor in the engine or does it run off the thermo?

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its has a seperate sensor at r/h/r of the cylinder head....
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Old 13-05-2008, 10:55 AM   #18
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It it called the Cylinder Head temp sensor ... the sensor screws straight into the head (although not into a water gallery). ECT's were done away with at the end of E-series (I think the hybrid engines went to CHT sensors ... as they were literally AU1) ... the old ECTs were mounted in the thermostat housing at the front of the engine.

Did your temp gauge rise at all????

If at night ... the car probably didn't get all that warm anyway.
You would have noticed cylinder shutdown ... it's similar to LHM ... the car would have driven like crap.
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