Is this why Aurion aren't selling?

[munners]

From GoAuto

"Limited-edition Toyota Aurion White offers $3000 of extra gear for $3500 premium2 May 2011
By RON HAMMERTON
TOYOTA has released a special edition of its Aurion V6 large car, offering what the company says is $3000 of extra value – for $3500 more than the Aurion Prodigy on which it is based."

Does this make sense to anyone? Am I missing something? Pay more for less!

Munners

[Poetic Justice]

Does the rest of the article go on to criticise it? Or do you think it may just be a typo?

[munners]

Link to article. I read it a few times but still dont get it. Maybe it is a typo???

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2578840028BE2F

There are intersting comparisons with Falcon, Commodore too.
Munners

[deesun]

Seems not
Toyota Australia manager public relations Mike Breen told GoAuto that the new model had been created to meet demand from customers wanting all these particular features on an Aurion.

“What we did was fitted these parts to the car for an increased price, so whilst there is no saving, it is meeting a demand that we have seen from our customers,” he said.

[Poetic Justice]

Interesting.

How very Toyota of them.

[Grippy]

Surely that can't be right.

[jpd80]

It wouldn't be the first time Toyota has gotten their sums wrong, just ask the tax department.....

[AWD Chaser]

As well, customers pay extra for dealer delivery and government charges on both models.

I thought that with the recent "All inclusive" price advertising changes by the ACCC, that they could no longer advertise a price for the car, then put Dealer and Delivery charges on top...

[buggo]

As my mate would say as he does to the pokies- 'bunch of scammers!' :P

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by AWD Chaser

I thought that with the recent "All inclusive" price advertising changes by the ACCC, that they could no longer advertise a price for the car, then put Dealer and Delivery charges on top...

It would be a requirement for dealerships and car companies to do this. It was just the Journo describing it as "list price" plus charges. It wasnt an advertisement or anything, just a write up.

But then again, who really beleives these "thousands dollars of extras for nothing" scams. Holden currently has the Berlina International for $36990 driveaway with $9500 in extras. Its very hard to imagine that $36990 minus $3000 GST, $2000 stamp duty/rego, $1000 dealer profit, $600 delvery, $9500 extras (total $16100) =$20890, that Holden are being very honest with those $9500 in extras (maybe $2000 in extras with a $7500 retail mark up)

[MexicanBatman]

Lol

Great value... Hahaha

At an increased value, go Toyota, yep them $50 floor mats you can have for..... $75 that's fair ;) LOL

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Its very hard to imagine that........ Holden are being very honest with those $9500 in extras (maybe $2000 in extras with a $7500 retail mark up)

Exactly and people are gullible enough to believe it.
I bet Holden moves heaps of them while XR6s for $34,990 gather rust...

[Ford_The_Win]

And to think people were paying almost the same price for an EF XR6 fifteen years ago.. how times change

[AWD Chaser]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Holden currently has the Berlina International for $36990 driveaway with $9500 in extras. Its very hard to imagine that $36990 minus $3000 GST, $2000 stamp duty/rego, $1000 dealer profit, $600 delvery, $9500 extras (total $16100) =$20890, that Holden are being very honest with those $9500 in extras (maybe $2000 in extras with a $7500 retail mark up)

It is $9500 of extras priced at RRP - it even states that on their website...

But what is RRP markup for the leather seats and Touch screen unit?

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

And to think people were paying almost the same price for an EF XR6 fifteen years ago.. how times change

Yeah I know. I've got the original sales certificate of my 95 EF XR8. With options, it was over $47000 on the road. That's over $69000 in today's money!!!

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

And to think people were paying almost the same price for an EF XR6 fifteen years ago.. how times change

Price is not the problem, the car is.

Our old friend is out of step with what buyers want.


I bought a demo EF 1 GLI back in 1995, XR6 wheels - $29,990 drive away...

[dylancox]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

And to think people were paying almost the same price for an EF XR6 fifteen years ago.. how times change

And for that price you got an EF XR6 put together with screws, nuts and bolts and a special engine... not an FG XR6 put together with cheap clips and superglue, powered by the taxi pack motor

[My32Doors]

Originally Posted by dylancox

And for that price you got an EF XR6 put together with screws, nuts and bolts and a special engine... not an FG XR6 put together with cheap clips and superglue, powered by the taxi pack motor

Oh how very nasty!

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by eb2monty

Yeah I know. I've got the original sales certificate of my 95 EF XR8. With options, it was over $47000 on the road. That's over $69000 in today's money!!!

My EF XR6 was $36,990, with Factory Air-conditioning, and Automatic Transmission.

[mik]

Originally Posted by dylancox

And for that price you got an EF XR6 put together with screws, nuts and bolts and a special engine... not an FG XR6 put together with cheap clips and superglue, powered by the taxi pack motor

i would happily have one of those you describe.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by mik

i would happily have one of those you describe.

I have fond memories of owning an EF, a car that looked like it was put together with pride at the factory. It took about 10 bolts and a couple more screws to undo the front bumper. On my BA, I can have the whole front bar off in maximum 2 minutes (two main bolts above grille, remove the plastic shields, then simply rip the edges of the bar from the cheap clips mounted onto the front guards). On the EF, the door trims were secured on nicely by phillips head screws. The BA.. its snap, crackle and pop as you pull the trim away from the door. Stupid cheap clips. The EF inner door panel looked decent when bare.. the BA one was basically unpainted and littered with overspray. I'm assuming the FG is put together similarly to the BA/BF..

[kpcart]

who says the aurions arent selling? theyve been a great success for toyota. im sure that is a typo too. it is pretty funny the great cars you can buy now for the price you bought a crap ef xr6 15 years ago, no car companies would get away with that criminal pricing these days.

[mash again]

id have one if it was awd or rwd

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by kpcart

who says the aurions arent selling? theyve been a great success for toyota.

They are selling less Aurions now then they were selling Avalons when they dropped them. I guess the only saving grace is the link to the Camry.

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by kpcart

who says the aurions arent selling? theyve been a great success for toyota. im sure that is a typo too. it is pretty funny the great cars you can buy now for the price you bought a crap ef xr6 15 years ago, no car companies would get away with that criminal pricing these days.

So, which model Falcon do you drive again? Don't judge the EF Falcon - they can still run with the big boys. My EF is 225,000 and going strong. Not many other makes can put up with 15 Australian summers, and keep going.

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by kpcart

who says the aurions arent selling? theyve been a great success for toyota. im sure that is a typo too. it is pretty funny the great cars you can buy now for the price you bought a crap ef xr6 15 years ago, no car companies would get away with that criminal pricing these days.

Geez...quality post this. hard to find hat isn't rubbis about it.

1. Aurion's aren't selling based on published sales figues. It has been in trouble for over 18months now with very low sales and a fraction of the % share toyota said they wanted for it when it launched. So no, not a great success.

2. Now owning an EF XR6 i'm not sure what you mean by 'crap' xr6. Its a great car in terms of build (in fact save for head gasket problems its hard to find anything wrong with it engineering wise), is fun to drive and still pretty quick by modern standards. In its day it was a very respected sport version of a top selling aussie large car thank you...

3. Pricing wasn't criminal it was waht the market would support. There were alot of reasons why the cars cost what they did (tarrifs, market forces, numbers of makes etc.) . The EF XR6 cost more proportionally versus the base falcon because it included more specific features (diff, high spec engine etc.) and was alot rarer in % terms of overall sales. The BA/BF/FG XR6 is a great car but is far mroe a 'body pack special' for hire companies than the EF XR6 ever was.....

If you are going to come in here defending a pretty uninspiring piece of toyota white goods it would help if you at least tried to do it with a modicum of fact and not heresay and insults.

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by naddis01

They are selling less Aurions now then they were selling Avalons when they dropped them.

Citation needed.

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Paxton

So, which model Falcon do you drive again? Don't judge the EF Falcon - they can still run with the big boys. My EF is 225,000 and going strong. Not many other makes can put up with 15 Australian summers, and keep going.

while i agree with the defence of the ef (obviously) the 'not many other makes can put up with 15 oz summers and keep going' is pure fantasy



go for a walk out onto the closest busy road and count how many different makes of mid 90s cars go past.

[Mr Hardware]

FACT: MOST EF'S ARE DEAD.

back on topic, the Aurion is a good car.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

Citation needed.

The technical resources of this very site.