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10-01-2007, 02:07 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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I saw this in todays Fin. review:
Ford sues one of its own for fake parts Matthew Drummond Ford Australia has alleged one of its largest dealers is involved in a counterfeit spare parts racket, falsely passing off mufflers, batteries and other spare parts as genuine Ford products. The car manufacturer is suing Jefferson Ford, one of Melbourne's biggest Ford dealers, which also trades under the names City Ford and President Ford. Last year three of its premises were raided by the Australian Federal Police, who are understood to be investigating the importing of fake Ford car parts. In documents filed in the Federal Court, Ford has alleged the dealer instructed its employees to print stickers bearing the Ford and Motorcraft trademarks and then apply them to mufflers and batteries, passing them off as being manufactured by Ford. Other spare parts falsely represented as being genuine Ford parts include ignition coils and leads, heater valves and stop-lamp switches. Ford will apply next Wednesday for an urgent injunction to stop the dealer from selling the parts. Ford is also seeking declarations that Jefferson Ford has infringed its trade marks and engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct, and it wants orders forcing Jefferson to destroy the spare parts. Jefferson Ford's managing director, Simon Jefferson, denied any wrongdoing and said his company had never knowingly sold non-genuine parts. "The parts concerned are sourced from Australian-based importers of Ford parts, which is standard practice in the global automotive market," he said. Ford spokeswoman Sinead McAlary said while customers should have a choice in whether they wished to use genuine Ford parts, the company was keen to ensure they got what they paid for. "Anything with the Ford brand on it goes through a rigorous testing procedure," she said. An AFP spokesman confirmed yesterday that search warrants were executed in September of Jefferson Ford premises in three suburbs, including Melbourne's central business district. |
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10-01-2007, 02:09 PM
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The 'Stihl' Man
 
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Another reason, other than the pathetic service, why dealerships should be owned by Ford.
Thats pretty shonky if its true, id be ****ed if I was paying for genuine and they were actually knock offs. Its not like genuine stuff is cheap.
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10-01-2007, 02:29 PM
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10-01-2007, 02:32 PM
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Back to Le Frenchy
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WTF!!!! Not good. Bloody dodgy dealers.
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10-01-2007, 02:37 PM
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10-01-2007, 03:29 PM
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10-01-2007, 03:54 PM
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SFR Rob, sounds like you know something that Ford Australia may be interested in hearing??? Maybe an email to them would be appreciated?
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10-01-2007, 03:57 PM
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10-01-2007, 04:11 PM
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10-01-2007, 04:14 PM
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10-01-2007, 11:29 PM
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Hopefully the settlement will involve the defendant losing their dealerships to Ford HQ control.
This is shoddyness of the highest (lowest) order, no wonder Ford is willing to cop some negative press in the short term to stamp it out, it could have MASSIVE negative effects in the future. |
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11-01-2007, 12:08 AM
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Wow, perfect 20/20 hindsight!
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11-01-2007, 01:58 AM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Dodgey Dealers!!! I better start watching my local dealership more closely the next time I bring my car in Lol.
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11-01-2007, 02:26 AM
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Give me a break! Once I bought a lower radiator hose for my EB Fairmont, from a Ford delaer. For the life of me I couldnt get this hose to fit at the water pump. I ended up ringing the spare parts dept at the delaer and he confirmed the numbers on the hose were the correct ones. To his credit, the service manager drove 20mins to my house to assist me in putting this part on. We had to force this thing on so I could use the car. He confirmed it was the correct part and that he had a box full of them just delivered, all exactly the same. Anyway, in the days after, was as Supercrap and had a look at their hoses. Low and behold, their hoses had all the same marking and numbers on them, same country made in but no Ford sticker. And yes, they would have fitted properly. Some rigorous testing by Ford.....  :
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11-01-2007, 07:14 AM
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Hmmmm, been getting all three of our falcons serviced by them, bugger, hope they get rid of the dodgy parts soon, I will just tell them to use genuine, I actually find their service very good and don't realy want to find somewere else to have to get my fleet serviced.
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11-01-2007, 07:19 AM
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C'mon, this isn't news. This is what we'd expect from the spare parts of our beloved brand.
It's all about the money, not the customer!
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11-01-2007, 07:55 AM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Going through those older posts I noticed Mark mentioning a now defunct insurance company that used 2nd hand parts. Well I can tell you now that one of the biggest insurance companies has this policy in place today. I was advised of this by a friend of mine who owns one of the biggest smash repair businesses on the Gold Coast. |
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11-01-2007, 08:17 AM
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I see you....
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Wonder if they were fitting these parts as warranty replacements?
It would have been funny if Jeffo's had been claiming to replace parts that they never ordered from FoMoCo.... |
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11-01-2007, 09:55 AM
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This doesnt supprise me at all.
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11-01-2007, 10:35 AM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Ford buys parts from some o/s manufacturer and puts a "genuine" sticker on em, sells them at a premium.
Dealer contacts same manufacturer orders same part directly. OK the part hasnt been though Broadmeadows, but its the same thing, only now Ford arent getting a few bucks. Dealer makes more profit or sells cheaper. Ford factory squeals. Could be issues if you take your car elsewhere for service tho, especially warrantee service |
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11-01-2007, 01:42 PM
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Cuban... nothing like it
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Interesting... Strike 2!
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11-01-2007, 02:05 PM
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Hi there, Ed Finn from Ford Australia Public Affairs here. FOA would be very interested in hearing from anyone who has information which they believe may be relevant to the issues raised in this thread. Given that the matter is before the courts, I would appreciate direct contact. I can be reached at efinn@ford.com. Thanks.
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11-01-2007, 02:08 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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This is part of the reason why the car trade ( at dealer level ) is tough to be in. Even if you and your dealership tries its best it only takes one idiot to give the lot a bad name. I really hope they fry for it.
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11-01-2007, 02:12 PM
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^^Personally, I hope the dealer gets whet they deserve. I offer you the same support Ford offered me........ sorry, can't help.
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11-01-2007, 02:46 PM
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Hopefully they will now start on those that are selling Blank FPV ID plates etc, on ebay.
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11-01-2007, 03:24 PM
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Starter Motor
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Just like to say that I am heartily disappointed by what they've done, not to mention the shame they are bringing to those of us who legitimately fly the Ford flag when it comes to parts sales. :(
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11-01-2007, 08:27 PM
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06-04-2007, 08:55 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Dealer deserves what he gets, but for those employees who were oblivious to any illegal dealings, I hope they are not left out in the cold.
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06-04-2007, 09:01 PM
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Pretty damn bad to charge such high prices for aftermarket stuff .Then again most ford stuff is avail under other brands for cheaper .Its not right to steal peoples money like that or deseve like that .
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07-04-2007, 02:13 AM
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i'm baaaack....
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my mate used to work at the richmond branch, it got shut down i think.
or it ran out of work in the workshop at one point and he left. |
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