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Paulie
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bentleigh VIC
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Ladies Gents,
Im thinking of raising the roof of my garage and installing a car hoist for: 1. Working on the cars 2. Parking one XW under the other in the garage to free up parking space for my everyday cars. Would you go for a four poster, i know the wheels and suspension dont hang for work or 2 poster, haven't had much experience with hoists but being only 2 posts there is less weight distribution on the floor as i dont know how thick the slab is. Any advice? Cheers Paul
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tufLTD
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Gympie, Qld
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If you choose a 4-poster, get one that has jacking beams. I've used one for the last 6 years & love it. A very stable platform to work on. The only drawback is the room they take up, being 4 posts & all.
Occasionally, I also use the 2-posters at work, but never feel quite as safe under them, especially with larger vehicles like 4 wheel drives. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Gisborne Victoria
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I think the 2 posts are on a H frame so the weight distribution is the same as a 4 post. That is the H lays flat of the floor and the posts rise up from the junctions at the cross piece.
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Paulie
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bentleigh VIC
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tufLTD i have the same thoughts about the 2 posters and the car seems to sway back and forth a bit when you work under them.
Are jacking beams a replacement item for the drive on ramp setup??
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Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Victoria
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I think the 4 post is better because you don't have to bend over all the time to set the arms under the jacking points.
Though there is alot more room to work under a 2 poster. If I had the choice I'd go for a 4 poster with thejacks aswell.
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tufLTD
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Gympie, Qld
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Jacking beams slide along rails between the platforms. They are kinda like a big scissor jack. You can jack up the car front &/or rear to work on brakes, suspension, etc. They have sliding arms so you can adjust them in or out to reach different jacking points like crossmember, chassis rails, sills, etc.
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Paulie
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bentleigh VIC
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ahh thanks
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Clevo Mafia Inc.
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I have never heard of jacking beams, they definitely make the 4 poster sound a better option. |
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tufLTD
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I would choose the jacking beams that go east-west rather than the one pictured in previous post that goes north-south. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Vic
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what brands should you look for or stay away from and how much would you expect to pay?
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tufLTD
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Gympie, Qld
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Mine's a Molnar. Been pretty reliable except for the ram seal which leaked but was fixed under warranty.
They vary in price depending on brand but are usually around $6000, that's with the 2 optional jacking beams. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2007
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OMG, i was hoping for about $3.5 - $4K
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tufLTD
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The Convert
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Port Campbell
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I've only seen in the flesh (or metal..) 2 posters.
Those hoists in the photo look just like raised platforms with the car then jacked up sitting on top. How do you get underneath the car and what is the benefit of these over just jacking off the ground? |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Adelaide
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Id go a 2 poster, no room to work under a 4 poster, it defeats the whole purpose.
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The Convert
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Port Campbell
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That's what I'm thinking.On the topic of hoists, I've also been thinking about getting a 2 post hoist for home, I was told about a second hand one for sale recently for about $1,000, from a home based mechanic who was retiring. What kind of things should one look out for when buying a used hoist?
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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I wanna XR5
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: South Oz
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I just hate hitting my head on the arms of the 2 poster.
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FGX XR8
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
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you can't beat a 2 poster. more room and if the car is set up correctly won't sway as previously mentioned.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2008
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2 post only way to go 4 post only good for changing oil make sure its a screw jack type if your going to park something under it
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2005
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the ones on ebay for about $3000 brand new,are very good, mate just gotone for $2850 and he loves it.theres about 3 in vic and NSWsecond hand for around $1500 on ebay today
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The Vengeful One
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The 4 post looks good, but i think 2 posts are easier to work under, more room and the like!, and as long as its got the screw jack lock out you wont have to worry when your other car is under it!
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
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One thing to remember about 2 post hoist is that you need to have an extra high roof, they are a lot taller than a 4 poster. A 2 post hoist deosn't have stability issues, they can be used without bolting them down, although it's not recommended.
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The Vengeful One
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You would have to be either very brave, or very stupid not to bolt it down lol!
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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I favour the 2 post hoists too for versatility.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Try doing suspension work on a 4 poster......
I was a mechanic for 5 years. 2 poster for sure unless you want to work on 4WD's |
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tufLTD
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
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4 poster with jacking hoist, safest option, we just got our new workshop quote back and decided that we just couldn't justify school aged kids around a 2 post.
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