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29-11-2020, 08:14 AM | #1 | |||
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https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-com...toyota-rav4-gx
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Now my question is then how come the Endura (built in Canada) wasn't offered with the more powerful diesel available to UK buyers for a short time or why wasn't one of the Ecoboost engines offered to us. As is seems Ford Australia has been able to have a powertrain not offered to European buyers fitted down a European production line for a spec not offered to Europeans. Or have I missed something? |
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29-11-2020, 12:13 PM | #2 | ||
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Ford needs to check this review out... Escape was the Pick of the 2 (and won the review) but they still heaped praise on the Rav4 for, you guessed it, having a Hybrid option... Ford needs to get their's here ASAP and price it VERY similar to Rav4 Hybrid...
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30-11-2020, 01:40 AM | #3 | |||
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30-11-2020, 09:28 PM | #4 | ||
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The hybrid Escape/Kuga only just got announced in Europe while obviously the PHEV is on hold until the battery manufacturer gets it's act together so maybe, just maybe by the time the PHEV is available the Hybrid could also land here.
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01-12-2020, 12:49 PM | #5 | ||
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The Escape looks good and did really well in that review. Ford playing to strengths of old - better handling, more power, keen pricing too!
Torque converter auto seals the deal over CVT in a choice of fwd base models. Yep, I'd consider it, but the resale may hurt compared to the RAV4.
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Had a RAV 4 for a hire car when our Outlander was being repaired. Biggest hunk of junk i've ever driven, super basic inside and rides terribly.
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01-12-2020, 03:07 PM | #7 | ||
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See, that just kills it for me. There is no manual. UK gets a manual petrol and diesel rwd but yet again we don't. I know that new autos are good, but it just strikes the car immediately off the list for me if there is no manual option.
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so super basic inside and rides terribly is normally a given. not sure what Outlander you have but the base model would be much the same wouldn't it? on this review clearly not base model id pick the Rav over the Outlander, s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctIm0HNMIBk
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01-12-2020, 03:39 PM | #9 | |||
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I know the Euro taste of simple, basic manuals (that was M&D in our family, being European) but Aussie market must be almost wholly auto in this segment? (Well done to Mazda for providing the choice btw, they've got the zoom zoom handling and the manual)
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01-12-2020, 04:00 PM | #10 | ||
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is it auto because that's all that is offered? genuinely don't know. I do know that a base model manual could be considerably cheaper than a base model auto.
what I do know is that the excuse is constantly that it is not worth bringing in the small volume units because the cost of compliance is too high. To me that's BS. The cars are type approved so once a model is homologated that is supposed to cover all variants. Another reason for dumping the ADRs. We should just accept the full ECE type approval and that allows all Euro variants to be imported including manuals and high power options. |
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01-12-2020, 04:24 PM | #11 | ||
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Why does the author of the article talk negatively about the driving position of the escape, saying it's a bit high and you tend to sit on the car rather than in it, yet when speaking on the rav4 mentions the high driving position with no criticism?
I've not driven an escape (yet... currently looking to buy one) but I've sat in them and they are quite a nice place to be.
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01-12-2020, 05:57 PM | #12 | ||
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They always used to criticise the Falcon for the sit on/too high feeling. Its as if the journos grew up with the hat backward, chair-so-low your face is looking through the steering wheel crowd...
Overall the new Escape and the smaller Puma, Ford is onto some really good product here - combine with Ranger/Everest and you've got a solid core lineup. Hope they keep winning comparos, and keep on-message with effective marketing.
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I'd assume if V6 diesel hits Ranger then Everest will get it also, I just think the jump in $$ is too much from Escape AWD to Everest AWD and call me odd but I'd like something other than black for an interior. Does anyone remember the very first media interior photos of the Everest which had what I guess was Cashmere in local Ford speak....looked a class above the black interior. I'm still mulling over what I do car-wise next year and frankly if I want the towing ability of the Terry, but all the safety tech there isn't much with a RWD bias short of the Jeep, Merc & BMW and none in the Ford range with a high-end interior which is what I'd like. |
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01-12-2020, 08:21 PM | #14 | ||
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That's a really good write up. If I were in the market for that type of car I would certainly take one for a test drive.
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02-12-2020, 09:22 AM | #16 | |||
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I guess it come from years of slush box falcons & commodores their parents had.. eventually we found one in Manual, they also had the extra shifter for low range. was such a fun car to drive very capable. But todays SUVs are more carlike for roads. In car entertainment is a huge factor coming to you by popular demand
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Also, that review is on hybrids, we aren't talking about hybrids here. Edit: The escape is a really nice car to drive and i think the best out of that sized market, x-trail, outlander, Rav 4.
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Inadvertently you did you own review on a Rav4 comparing it to your own Outlander. but we don't know what year or models you are referring too. I'm sure you do but personally I'm not a mind reader.
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02-12-2020, 10:55 AM | #19 | |||
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automatics are very good these days and most of the reasons for people avoiding them in the past are gone. Small cars were under powered and an auto just sapped that even more. Auto's were thirstier due to terribly inefficient torque converters etc. Auto's had less gears so cars would get caught between gears (hunt) on hills etc as the gaps between ratios were quite large. I can't see myself ever buying another manual. They're just obsolete for family travel. I'm not that old (43) yet I already frown on people who treat public roads like a race track (yes, i used to as well when i was young and stupid). so yes, i can see why manual equipped cars are becoming quite rare. They just aren't needed.
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If the customers don't want it, and don't ask for it, they won't get it. And the majority want black/grey interiors. |
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Transmissions have come a long way since the 8 speed in the BMW is outstanding. wish the Territory had one like it.
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02-12-2020, 04:20 PM | #22 | |||
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Look how much nicer a non-black Escape (US) interior looks: https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...vealed-117810/ https://editorial.pxcrush.net/carsal...024&height=682 Last edited by Dr Smith; 02-12-2020 at 04:36 PM. |
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My opinion. I often see the light colours on website & Brochures as its difficult to photograph the black, and the light colour seems more spacious.
but in Reality people by the dark colours because they are worried about marking and stains. My earlier Territory Ghia seats would get stain marks from wearing a new pair of Jeans
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03-12-2020, 10:42 AM | #24 | |||
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Still as mentioned, it surely costs nothing to have it as an option.
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Having seen some Range Rover combo's you can even option a light leather seat/door trim etc.. with a dark colour on the seat bases and floor carpets, best of both worlds...and are we Aussies unable to keeps car interiors clean compared to our US Fordites? |
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(The back seats just need a good clean once the Grandkids go home )
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We have the two-tone leather trim in the Jaguar. Looks so good, but I do keep on top of the cleaning.
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