I killed another commodore

EvilChief · 13-09-2008, 11:45 PM

Well I got it managed to kill my dail driver ... the VP ...

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not after running a strong 13.6 @ 94mph and a 1.2s 60 footer on street tyres in full street trim (subs, full tank, street tyre pressures, etc) ... but then the sesond run, just as i shifted into 3rd gear i heard pinging over the sound of the exhaust and helmet, so i backed off ... still ran a 14.7 but now i got a volvo engine (5cyl).

I am not even gonna botehr about stripping this engine , just gonna get a replacement one and drop it in.

For those who can appreciate good performance and good times from any car, I am quite happy with ET as well ast the 165kw at the wheel and the stunning 780Nm of torque.

Now let the Buick flaming begin

Cheers
Mic

azaxr8 · 13-09-2008, 11:47 PM

put the engine in a real car? nuff said?

EvilChief · 13-09-2008, 11:49 PM

haha ... i cant argue with the build quality of either car or engine lol

schnoods · 13-09-2008, 11:53 PM

I'd like to see a 1.2 60' time in all honesty from a VP.

Unless it was going downhill with a 4.44 diff, I dont see... Never know though.

EvilChief · 13-09-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by schnoods

I'd like to see a 1.2 60' time in all honesty from a VP.

Unless it was going downhill with a 4.44 diff, I dont see... Never know though.

hehe got time slips :p

3.45 very tight LSD and tricked auto and launch under boost

**ebxr8240** · 14-09-2008, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilChief

hehe got time slips :p

3.45 very tight LSD and tricked auto and launch under boost

lets see..

[Tonko] · 14-09-2008, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilChief

hehe got time slips :p

And a scanner?

EvilChief · 14-09-2008, 12:13 AM

haha scanner i dont have .. ill see if i can take a piccy with digi cam tomorrow :p

funny car nefore me layed a good set of tracks for me too

burnz · 14-09-2008, 07:59 AM

vp is one of the lightest cars holden ever made and is still the quickest 6 potter to date.
i recomend you drop a VN TTB 5 litre V8 since you changing motors

dave289 · 14-09-2008, 08:52 AM

165 kw at the wheels and 780 nm of torque.I'd like to see the dyno sheet on that if it exists.

GS608 · 14-09-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dave289

165 kw at the wheels and 780 nm of torque.I'd like to see the dyno sheet on that if it exists.

maybe he meant 180nm

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**Falcon Coupe** · 14-09-2008, 09:00 AM

I have two mates whos cars do 1.2 60ft, one runs 9.30@145 the other 9.80@ 138.

burnz · 14-09-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dave289

165 kw at the wheels and 780 nm of torque.I'd like to see the dyno sheet on that if it exists.

i think you'll find that's tracktive effort.
not flywheel nm.

buickman · 14-09-2008, 09:26 AM

The only Buick V6 mtrs that could do 13.4 1/4 times and 0-60mph in 4.7 sec was the 1987 Buick GNX Grand national and that run a Garrett 16psi turbo is your mtr running a turbo?

A write up on the mtr plus a Y tube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6wtnmdZhE

Description

1987 Buick GNX

547 built

1987 was also noted as being the year the
GN to end all GN's was introduced.

A limited production run of 200 Grand
Nationals, specially prepped by ASC/McClaren
were to be produced, called the infamous GNX.

This 200 unit figure was increased to 500,
then to 547 by production end.

Regals were shipped to ASC for their special
mods including:
Special ceramic turbined turbo,
Special intercooler,
Special GNX Turbo Shield,
Special prom progamming,
Special transmission valbe body mods,
Torque arm,
Panhard bar,
Fender vents,
Wheels flares,
16"Black mesh alloy wheels wearing
245/50VR16 Gatorback's,
Special badging,
Full analog instrumentation and a personalized
serial number.

Linking the owner to the car.

To get parts you have to prove you own
one.

The Awesome GNX produces 275 HP and
360 ft ib of torque and was capable of mid 13
second runs in factory trim.

Grechie · 14-09-2008, 09:33 AM

if it is all true its a nice time...shame about the motor dropping a cylinder...

LUXO_8 · 14-09-2008, 09:34 AM

i think you'll find his car is turbocharged.......look at his sig

EvilChief · 14-09-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LUXO_8

i think you'll find his car is turbocharged.......look at his sig

wow someone is one the money ...

yes the car is turbocharged

LUXO_8 · 14-09-2008, 10:46 AM

chuck up some pics, always like sleepers, regardless of make.....

what are ya plans?, get another "wreckers special" stock motor, or knock one up with less comp?

EvilChief · 14-09-2008, 11:13 AM

I cant really afford to spend too much $$$ on this vehicle considering that i just bought a place for my otehr half and myself and we are still stuck half way through the finance process, plus I am building a 347W Turbo for my AU so I think a stock replacement is on teh cards. Also considering selling it, once new engine is fitted and buy a cheap 4cyl as unit needs a little bit of my and my $$$ attention.

so here is a scan of my first dyno run on 8psi with 155kW and 750Nm of torque at the wheels. also added drag slip at the top of the page.

BTWi I have been drag racing for nearly 8 years now, so i got a little bit experience in launching cars

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EvilChief · 14-09-2008, 11:44 AM

Edit: Piston No4 is confirmed to have a hohle ...

nugget378 · 14-09-2008, 02:43 PM

Even Brett Steven's experience wouldnt get that car into a 1.2-60'..

I used to launch my old 550hp falcon at 6500rpm on slicks for a 1.6 and it ran a hell of alot faster,it even broke the factory seat with that launch,a 1.2 would of pulled the dash out of its mounts...Sorry but Im calling this one a bit optimistic..

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUXO_8

i think you'll find his car is turbocharged.......look at his sig

It could have another 3 turbo's,and 8 blowers for that matter and still wouldnt 60' that fast,if anything it would 60' slower,it takes alot more work to the chassis than the engine to get those types of short times..

68XTFairmont · 14-09-2008, 02:49 PM

What is it with some people???

People ask for photgraphic evidence of stuff and then when someone posts photos of this there are still doubters.

Always gotta be some /\ssh0le in every crowd

nugget378 · 14-09-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 68XTFairmont

What is it with some people???

People ask for photgraphic evidence of stuff and then when someone posts photos of this there are still doubters.

Always gotta be some /\ssh0le in every crowd

Where is this evidence of a 1.2 second 60' time?
I see a dyno slip,with no where near enough power on it to run that time,as a previous poster has added,low 9 second and better cars do 1.2 second sixty's,13 second cars can not,never have and never will simple as that..might need some reading glasses there champ,or some better comprehension skills at the very least

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efgiar · 14-09-2008, 03:25 PM

people also forget that the first gear on vn-vs are huge and take off like all buggery.

EvilChief · 14-09-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by efgiar

people also forget that the first gear on vn-vs are huge and take off like all buggery.

Transmission type 4 auto (VP Auto)
Ratio 1 3.06:1
Ratio 2 1.63:1
Ratio 3 1.00:1
Ratio 4 0.70:1
Final Drive Ratio: 3.45:1
Diff: LSD

GF's cousins VN V6 Supercharged runs 14.1 at 91mph with 1.5 60 footers same gearbox and same diff ;)

as a comparison these are AU Transmission specs:
Transmission type 4 auto
Ratio 1 2.39:1
Ratio 2 1.45:1
Ratio 3 1.00:1
Ratio 4 0.68:1
Final drive ratio 3.08:1

hehe damn i love stiring ... keep it up guys

**Falcon Coupe** · 14-09-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by efgiar

people also forget that the first gear on vn-vs are huge and take off like all buggery.

They do 1.2's but ?

So they must look like this XW doing high 1.4's 60 ft ?

nugget378 · 14-09-2008, 05:22 PM

Sif any of those ratio's listed will beat a race car with a 4.88 rear and a 2.87-1st,,
get real,,and get a clue...

Do we have a pic of this thing with such a wicked launch?

If IIRC,the XW pictured above was doing 1.4-1.5 sixty's at the time of that picture....

burnz · 14-09-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilChief

Transmission type 4 auto (VP Auto)
Ratio 1 3.06:1
Ratio 2 1.63:1
Ratio 3 1.00:1
Ratio 4 0.70:1
Final Drive Ratio: 3.45:1
Diff: LSD

GF's cousins VN V6 Supercharged runs 14.1 at 91mph with 1.5 60 footers same gearbox and same diff ;)

as a comparison these are AU Transmission specs:
Transmission type 4 auto
Ratio 1 2.39:1
Ratio 2 1.45:1
Ratio 3 1.00:1
Ratio 4 0.68:1
Final drive ratio 3.08:1

hehe damn i love stiring ... keep it up guys

change the diff in it champ 3.07 std open for a v6 auto

protd · 14-09-2008, 05:45 PM

your not stirring your making a stooge of yourself, a 1.2 60' on street tyres come on dude wake up to yourself,

1 thing i can guarantee you is townsville drag way's timing equipment is dodgy at best, how many of these 1.2 60's did you run??

post up some more slips with these 1.2 60's on them

anyone that has raced at Townsville knows not to take any of there "one" off time cards as being right..

i mean last time i was there i run 1 pass at 10.3 @ 165mph i quickly went to the tower and they granted me another qualifying pass and i tossed that card in the bin, it happens all the time down there sorry to burst your bubble

protd · 14-09-2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68XTFairmont

What is it with some people???

People ask for photgraphic evidence of stuff and then when someone posts photos of this there are still doubters.

Always gotta be some /\ssh0le in every crowd

Do you know how quick a 1.2 60' is???

cars running into the 9's don't do 1.2 60's, 7 and 8 sec prostreet cars may be able to crack into those sort of times, but a v6 commo on street tyres on the townsville dragstrip

when you have been to that track you will understand