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14-10-2017, 09:18 AM | #1 | ||
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Interesting retrospective about the demise of car manufacturing in Australia:
http://www.theage.com.au/business/ho...12-gz06x2.html
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14-10-2017, 11:44 AM | #2 | ||
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it's hard for me to put into words. The factory is a 15 minute drive from me and while I am Ford through and through, there has always been a Holden factory in my lifetime. In a way Ford wouldn't be Ford without Holden. The fact that both companies have ceased manufacturing is just, monumental. All our lives have changed forever.
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14-10-2017, 08:16 PM | #3 | ||
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G'day , Bloody sad for all the keen Holden crew. Loyal Ford fans know exactly how they'd be feeling from a year ago. Funny how a screwed together item made of metal , plastic, glass , rubber and various fluids can affect your emotions like they do but they do.
Despite that more superficial stuff the really upsetting bit is all those wonderful people at Holden and Toyota now and Ford last year who face a life without what so many of them have dedicated decades to in many cases. It's not as if that many can stay in nuts and bolts motor manufacturing industry in any shape or form either because in the words of Bugs Bunny "THAT'S ALL FOLKS" RIP Holden , Toyota and dear ol' Ford Australian factories. . All really gone by this time next week. Last edited by roddy1960; 14-10-2017 at 08:21 PM. |
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14-10-2017, 11:24 PM | #4 | ||
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i remember a story from a guy I know who worked at Holdens for years. One of the workers would occasionally wear a Ford cap, around Bathurst time or when Clipsal 500 was in Adelaide. One day, one of the tools from management saw him and the word came down for him to stop wearing it. From that day apparently he wore it every day and pushed it further with t-shirts and jackets lol. The union backed him all the way
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16-10-2017, 12:01 PM | #5 | ||
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Bev Brock was on the radio this morning talking about the closure. Saying " how Holden has been part of the Australian way of life for years."
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16-10-2017, 12:59 PM | #6 | ||
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Did anyone go to the dream cruise on the weekend? Any piccies??
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16-10-2017, 05:40 PM | #7 | ||
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Odd that they named it "Dream Cruise".
I would have though "bad dream" cruise would have been more appropriate considering so many are losing their jobs and the story stops on October 20.
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16-10-2017, 06:22 PM | #8 | ||
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I'll be interested to see the price they get for the last vehicle that rolls off the production line - or at least the last one available to the public.
The last one will probably go off to a museum. |
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16-10-2017, 06:54 PM | #9 | ||
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G'day , I assume that last N/A XR6 is in a museum . Kind of sad really if you ask me. Just imagine if they'd had a nationwide raffle for the very last Ford Falcon ever ...It would have made plenty of spondoolies and the car's value would have been crazy . The mind boggles
Some were disappointed that it was a normal Falcon XR6 . I wasn't because it was extremely fitting that it represented the vast majority of all the three million plus falcons that were naturally aspirated six cylinder chariots. It'll be interesting on Friday to see how Holden approaches it all . Cheers Rod. Last edited by roddy1960; 16-10-2017 at 07:02 PM. |
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16-10-2017, 07:07 PM | #10 | ||
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It is in body shop now
Sedan with sun-roof..SS-v, Redline, Calais (or maybe Director)? https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/17...types=og.likes Gutted! Not just because I am a Holden guy and it is the last 'true' Holden, but more because it is the last of mass produced cars in Australia. Last edited by Iggle Piggle; 16-10-2017 at 07:23 PM. |
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17-10-2017, 11:46 PM | #11 | |||
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18-10-2017, 10:30 AM | #12 | |||
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I'm not much into the cars they built at Elizabeth per se, but having been born only 500m from the glass house and having the plant as the back drop to my childhood, the thought of it all going silent in 2 days is depressing to say the least. Last week i was discussing Sunday's farewell cruise with my mate who worked on the line for 30 years and took a package 2 years ago. I asked him if he was attending and he said he couldn't do it, too many memories and not something he wanted to revisit emotionally. We hang **** on Holden, but when you strip away the Blue/Red rivalry, these production plants mean a hell of a lot to so many people, wether you were privileged to work there or not, for an area like Elizabeth, Holden's was instrumental in not only building cars, but social fabrics and pride. I drove past it yesterday and it hit me like a freight train, its all over and my home town will never be the same again. To use the words of Joni Mitchell...Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you’ve got till it's gone. |
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18-10-2017, 11:22 AM | #13 | |||
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When Ford announced in 2013 that they are closing people used to rubbish me saying that Ford makes **** cars so that is why they closed and Holden's future was safe. I told them Ford's closure GUARANTEES Holden's closure and Toyota will not want to be left alone supporting the industry. The local auto industry died on 23rd May 2013.
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18-10-2017, 12:48 PM | #14 | ||
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Interesting article. Big picture, wouldn't of cost much to keep manufacturing going in our country, for a while anyway.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/in...fa08883b30fed7 I'm not sure how many taxpayers there are in Aus, but calculating some rough figures, it would of cost each taxpayer no more than $25 per year for the 300million gov funding to keep Holden and Toyota. 25 bucks.... less than a pack of smokes these days. almost half that went into the stupid same sex postal votes!! |
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18-10-2017, 02:16 PM | #15 | |||
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18-10-2017, 03:21 PM | #16 | |||
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Having said all that, Aussie's didn't find local cars trendy anymore, so if you cant sell the required numbers, why build them. |
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18-10-2017, 04:41 PM | #17 | ||
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18-10-2017, 05:01 PM | #18 | ||
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2016?
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18-10-2017, 05:10 PM | #19 | ||
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yep he retired last year, I was looking at the holden logo...
yet mine doesn't have this plate at all..
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18-10-2017, 05:12 PM | #20 | ||
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Is this the VIN of the last car? So being a ex employee a Reserve?
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18-10-2017, 05:19 PM | #21 | ||
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mine has the vin on the windscreen.
holden normally have two plates under bonnet, 1/ vin, trans, diff, engine. 2/ body, seat capacity, paint code, luxury level.. (I don't have this one)
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18-10-2017, 05:47 PM | #22 | |||
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as far as know their custom plates for employees as per old/current holden lion logo.
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18-10-2017, 06:35 PM | #23 | |||
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18-10-2017, 08:02 PM | #25 | ||
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Not a fan of the brand as such but man its bloody terrible that its the end
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18-10-2017, 08:22 PM | #26 | ||
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Sad to see. I spent many a day at the Elizabeth plant and new the place well.
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18-10-2017, 08:41 PM | #28 | ||
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^ Last badge going on.
Sad - so that's it then, she's done. |
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18-10-2017, 08:51 PM | #29 | ||
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But it is only Wednesday. What will they do for the next two days?
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