First Yaris, now Hilux...

[Yellow_Festiva]

2021 Toyota HiLux Rogue and Rugged-X increase prices by $13,000
That's a 20% increase 28 SEP 2020

Flagship versions of the 2021 Toyota HiLux range will cost more than many luxury cars, ranging between $73,000 and $77,000 – a significant 20 per cent increase on previous drive-away prices.
Leaked drive-away offers for the 2021 Toyota HiLux Rugged-X and Toyota HiLux Rogue reveal Toyota’s recent round of price rises show no signs of abating.

Less than a month after Australia’s biggest car maker increased the price of its most affordable model, the Yaris hatch, by more than $9000 – vacating the sub-$20,000 segment – it has issued another substantial price hike on its biggest-selling model.

Prices for the 2021 Toyota HiLux Rogue and Toyota HiLux Rugged-X were accidentally published online late last week – and have since been taken down.

UPDATE: Since this story was originally published, the recommended retail prices have been confirmed by Toyota Australia ($69,990 plus on-road costs for the Rugged-X and $68,990 plus on-road costs for the Rogue). Both vehicles are due in Australian showrooms and “formally on sale” in late November.

The drive-away price shown for the 2021 Toyota HiLux Rugged-X in NSW was $75,962. Until four months ago the Rugged-X was available for a long-standing drive-away price of $62,990. This represents a price rise just shy of $13,000.

However, in West Australia – where stamp duty and other fees are higher – customers will pay $77,485 drive-away, a hike of $14,495.

The 2021 Toyota HiLux Rogue – which now comes with a power-operated roller shutter hardlid and retains its marine-grade carpet lining in the ute tub – was advertised for $74,932 drive-away before the price was taken down. Until four months ago the Rogue was available for a long-standing drive-away price of $61,990.

Even regular models in the updated 2021 Toyota HiLux range came in for a significant price rise when they were released two months ago.

The updated Toyota HiLux gains a suspension overhaul, more power and torque (to 150kW/500Nm), Apple Car Play, Android Auto, volume and tuning dials, and a digital speed display. The Rugged-X and Rogue will also get JBL premium audio.

It is unlikely these changes alone amount to a 20 per cent price rise. Toyota and other manufacturers have attributed recent price rises to currency exchange rate pressure and increased levels of standard equipment on new or updated models.

However, a shortage in supply and an unexpected increase in demand have also pushed up prices.

Most car factories have been slow to ramp up after shutdowns during the coronavirus crisis, and demand has been stronger than expected as many consumers have decided to treat themselves to a new car rather than an overseas holiday.

It means after half a decade of record low prices, Australians are now obliged to pay top dollar – until demand wanes or dealers once again become overstocked.

During a recent press conference, the head of sales and marketing at Toyota Australia, Sean Hanley, was asked when HiLux pricing would “come back to earth” and get closer to its long-standing drive-away offers over the past two years.

Mr Hanley said: “In terms of pricing, I believe that car offers sensational value for money. Based on the (three or four weeks) that the car has been in the market, based on the demand we’re seeing, I also believe the market is seeing the value in that car. It’s a significant improvement to the previous model … so I would contest that the pricing of that car in the market right now is in fact offering good value.”

While the popular Toyota HiLux SR5 double cab automatic four-wheel-drive had been available from $53,990 drive-away for much of the past two years, it didn’t limbo to that level until early 2018 – two-and-a-half years after the current generation was released in October 2015.

Industry insiders believe the next possibility for a sharp Toyota HiLux drive-away offer will be early next year, when the company looks to clear 2020-built models in the lead up to March 31, the end of the Japanese financial year.

Historically, Toyota and other Japanese car companies have a big push for the first three months of each calendar year, to meet internal sales and profit targets.

Meantime, as before, the Toyota HiLux Rugged-X and Rogue are produced in Thailand before additional parts are fitted locally, in Melbourne. That process is scheduled to commence on the new models in early October.

Joshua Dowling

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2021-t...nk=homeVideos2

[Franco Cozzo]

RAM 1500 is looking better every day

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

RAM 1500 is looking better every day

And I read somewhere a company up north is patenting a design for making left to right hand drive conversion far easier without any engine bay changes with mention of speaking to overseas manufacturers.

During a recent press conference, the head of sales and marketing at Toyota Australia, Sean Hanley, was asked when HiLux pricing would “come back to earth” and get closer to its long-standing drive-away offers over the past two years.

Usually gravity brings things back to Earth however it will be interesting to see if they can keep things high before incentives kick in and competitors sharpen their pricing.

[Hulsty]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

And I read somewhere a company up north is patenting a design for making left to right hand drive conversion far easier without any engine bay changes with mention of speaking to overseas manufacturers.

Usually gravity brings things back to Earth however it will be interesting to see if they can keep things high before incentives kick in and competitors sharpen their pricing.

Bringing back the old chains and rods under the dash?

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

RAM 1500 is looking better every day

Their price will have to change with Walkinshaw operating with heavy Government Grants, times have changed I'm picking they wont get a renewal

[Bossxr8]

Toyota must be thinking we have the market cornered, so many rusted on buyers will just pay whatever we ask. Might as well take advantage of them.

Squeezing them dry. Will the sheep start to wander. Or are they blind?

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Toyota must be thinking we have the market cornered, so many rusted on buyers will just pay whatever we ask. Might as well take advantage of them.

Squeezing them dry. Will the sheep start to wander. Or are they blind?

They've been doing to Landcruiser prices fore Years & getting away with It..!

[Smoke Pursuit]

Strictly playing the market atm. They are just taking advantage of the current climate, demand vs lack of supply.



Can't wait to see Hilux numbers for September given last months dismal figure plus these huge price increases.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by hayseed

They've been doing to Landcruiser prices fore Years & getting away with It..!

Problem is Landcruiser has no competition. Hilux has a market full.

[whynot]

Well, supply and demand. The market economy is where buyer meets seller and all that stuff. Good luck to Toyota if they can get away with it.

Funny thing is ... after getting once on an early model (when the G6E came out), I will never do that again. In my view, the early batch never hold their value, particularly once a few running changes have come out as manufacturers deal with the inevitable glitches with a new model.

[Sprintey]

One of my favourite scenes in Steve Martin's "LA Story" is where he goes to the posh restaurant and millionaire played by Chevy Chase asks for a better table this time, but is told no, and the reason why is "The New Cruelty". Hi Toyota!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEmlyqDgFk

[Giant Cranium]

4 years ago you could get a ss ute for 40k driveway. now its 80k for a horribly uncomfortable ute that most owners use like they would a ss, to site and home every day

[XD 351 Ute]

No more local car production was always going to mean more expensive imports in the long run. Too expensive to produce vehicles here? Perhaps, but I read it as less profit, and now the gouging begins..

Ed

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

And I read somewhere a company up north is patenting a design for making left to right hand drive conversion far easier without any engine bay changes with mention of speaking to overseas manufacturers.

When I was a kid, my brother had an old car, I have nfi what it was.

It was RHD, but it had all the holes for LHD, with proper blanks installed in each.
The dashboard was perfectly symmetrical. The Glove-Box and the Instrument Cluster were interchangeable. He never attempted it, but from what he could see, the steering box and arms could simply be swapped from right to left.

[chevypower]

2021 F150 engine updates
3.5L EcoBoost 300kw / 678Nm.
3.5L PowerBoost (hybrid) 320kw / 780Nm.
https://youtu.be/hwINOm0ibgY

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

4 years ago you could get a ss ute for 40k driveway. now its 80k for a horribly uncomfortable ute that most owners use like they would a ss, to site and home every day

The $40k SS ute wasn't a 1-tonner or AWD so was subject to fringe benefit tax
so lease payment and running costs not 100% tax deductible and required owners
to maintain a log book to prove actual % business usage ( ~3 months from memory?)

The $80k utes are non-FBT compliant vehicles, so can be set up so lease and
running costs are 100% tax deduction. (Vehicle is treated like company vehicle)

That's why sales of Aussie utes faded away and 4x4 dual cab utes now
tower over those former car based utes. Most of those owners are happy
with easier tax position and easy leasing set up. Not withstanding the fact
that most are used for considerable private use outside of work times......

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Hulsty

Bringing back the old chains and rods under the dash?

Not sure how much is marketing or if it's something new:
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...nual-ram-sales

The box means accessories and lift kits designed for left-hand drive vehicles can still be bolted onto the 1500, and minimises the amount of expensive, complicated conversion work that needs to be done in the engine bay.

“A number of years ago we designed this new method where we do a steering transfer inside the cabin, it just sits behind the dash,” Mr Kocwa said.

“It’s a simple, simple method… basically we leave everything in the engine bay alone, and we just use the steering transfer box on the original driver’s side, a steering transfer shaft, and then another steering transfer box.

The transfer box is why SCD says it can have the pumped-up 1500 TRX in Australia by Christmas with its supercharged V8.

The company and its chief engineer, Karan Jain, is currently working to homologate its transfer box for carmakers looking to install it from the factory. Mr Kocwa remained tight-lipped on which brands and cars, naturally.

“This is an Australian initiative that can now be sold around the world… it has applications not just in the car industry,” Mr Kocwa said.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by jpd80

The $40k SS ute wasn't a 1-tonner or AWD so was subject to fringe benefit tax
so lease payment and running costs not 100% tax deductible and required owners
to maintain a log book to prove actual % business usage ( ~3 months from memory?)

The $80k utes are non-FBT compliant vehicles, so can be set up so lease and
running costs are 100% tax deduction. (Vehicle is treated like company vehicle)

That's why sales of Aussie utes faded away and 4x4 dual cab utes now
tower over those former car based utes. Most of those owners are happy
with easier tax position and easy leasing set up. Not withstanding the fact
that most are used for considerable private use outside of work times......

^^^^^^^^^ I know quite a few people who've Bought RAM 1500's as apposed to 200 Series 'cruisers for this very reason..

[Bossxr8]

You'd have to have rocks in your head, to buy a top of the line Hilux for about the same money you could get a Raptor for.

The Rogue Hilux's don't even get upgraded suspension.

[kaniSS]

It will come crashing back down once their sales drop. No one's gonna fork out an extra 9k for a Toyota. Forget it.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Problem is Landcruiser has no competition. Hilux has a market full.

LC has competition, but LC buyers are so rusted on, they won't hear a word otherwise.

[csv8]

"Toyota has shown off a lifted and unique Hilux model in New Zealand named after one of the world’s most vicious sharks, the Mako. This is the Hilux many have been waiting for.



The Mako is largely based on the Hilux Rugged-X on sale in Australia, but the Kiwi version goes a few steps further with an increased suspension lift, unique black Rhino 18-inch allows and Maxxis RAZR All-Terrain tyres (265/60). The suspension changes see an ARB Old Man Emu setup used for 40mm lift front and 50mm lift rear, this includes Old Man Emu BP-51 by-pass shocks with adjustable compression and rebound control. The leaf springs have also been upgraded. There is currently no clearance and departure angle information available." https://practicalmotoring.com.au/4x4...-raptor-rival/

[danzvtil]

The term “rusted on” keeps being thrown around like its derogatory. The truth is, every HiLux sr5/rougue/rugged/black pack bought in the last 2 years is now worth more than they paid. That is more than enough to keep buyers coming back.

[Wretched]

Sheer arrogance of Toyota AU. Sean Hanley is surely one of the main execs behind it too, so far up himself.

[Franco Cozzo]

At this point I'm expecting new 2021 Toyota VDJ79 Land Cruiser - now only $1,750,000!

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

At this point I'm expecting new 2021 Toyota VDJ79 Land Cruiser - now only $1,750,000!

Does it have a 100,000km warranty?

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by danzvtil

The term “rusted on” keeps being thrown around like its derogatory. The truth is, every HiLux sr5/rougue/rugged/black pack bought in the last 2 years is now worth more than they paid. That is more than enough to keep buyers coming back.

Serious?

[DK30RB]

Sold my 18 month old Sahara for $1500 more than i bought it for due to lack of stock and a price rise...

Having said that after owning 2 x 100 series, and 3 x 200 series, i just couldn't go back and pay more for what is essentially the same 13 year old car.

Once they added the DPF, that ruined the 200. Clobbered its towing ability. The last 2 i had were both DPF models and struggled up hills towing where the pre dpf model was fine. The computer kept reducing power. One particular route i take with the caravan - start at bottom of hill at 80, struggling at 60 half way up. Non dpf was ok to do 80, post DPF both struggled.

Replaced it with a new F150 coyote V8. Yet to see what resale and reliability is like. But so far it tows better, has more power and so far has used significantly less fuel than the 200 when towing.

Same route with van as per above - cruises up hill at 80km at 3,400 rpm and easily accelerates if needed. Used 2 litres per 100km less fuel too.

[CyberWasp]

Which is why they should be selling the F150 here.
There is a gold mine in sales to take off Toyota.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by kaniSS

It will come crashing back down once their sales drop. No one's gonna fork out an extra 9k for a Toyota. Forget it.

Any details on how Yaris sales are going singe their price hike?