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https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-new-car-sales
VFACTS February 2024: Another record month for Australian new car sales New car sales were up again in February, with Nissan storming up the sales charts and Ford, Toyota and Mitsubishi up by double digits. William Stopford February 2024 was yet another record-breaking month for new car deliveries in Australia, with a long-expected slowdown in sales yet to be reflected in the tallies. A total of 105,023 vehicles were sold in February, an increase of 20.9 per cent compared with February 2023. Not only were sales up across every state and territory, every SUV, ute and van segment was up, while small and mid-sized passenger cars also saw a bump. Sales of traditional petrol and diesel vehicles were up 4.5 and 21.1 per cent respectively, while electric vehicle (EV) sales jumped 70.4 per cent and hybrids saw an even greater increase of 100.2 per cent. EVs accounted for 9.6 per cent of the market and the Tesla Model 3 was the third best-selling vehicle overall, behind the Ford Ranger and Toyota HiLux. VFACTS February 2024: Another record month for Australian new car sales However, the peak body for new car brands cited the fact just one electric ute was sold – the LDV eT60, which is more than double the price of its turbo-diesel counterpart – as a reason the Australian Government should be cautious about its proposed efficiency and emissions standards. “Australian motorists’ strong preference for utes, accounting for 20.3 per cent of sales this month, demonstrates the challenges with the proposed New Vehicle Emissions (sic) Standard,” said Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) chief executive Tony Weber. “Out of 21,327 utes sold in February, only one was an EV. “Growing sales of electric vehicles across other market segments proves that where a battery electric product exists which suits the driving habits of Australian motorists, work and recreation needs they will purchase these vehicles.” Brands Toyota was comfortably ensconced in the top spot, though HiLux 4×2 sales sunk 51.4 per cent year-over-year, the Kluger fell by 19.4 per cent, and the Prado dropped by 9.3 per cent ahead of the launch of a new-generation model mid-year. VFACTS February 2024: Another record month for Australian new car sales Mazda sat in second with 7350 sales, down 4.1 per cent. It was let down by a drop in CX-5 sales (down 36.8 per cent) plus the drying up of CX-9 stock, though the updated Mazda 2 also sunk by 35.1 per cent. Ford was up 20.8 per cent to 7275 sales, and even a drop in Ranger 4×2 sales couldn’t stop the Ranger from being Australia’s best-selling vehicle. Everest sales were up 40.8 per cent and Ranger 4×4 sales by 26.2 per cent. Just outside of the top three was Nissan, which had a huge month especially considering it sat in 12th place last month. Nissan sales were up 157.2 per cent over February 2023, with the X-Trail up 283.5 per cent, the Patrol by 206.3 per cent, the Juke by 223.4 per cent, and the Navara up by 181 per cent. After fending off Kia in January, Hyundai was overtaken by its in-house rival (5703 sales vs 6141 sales). Both were outsold by Mitsubishi, which recorded 6411 deliveries. The top 10 was rounded out by Tesla, Isuzu Ute and MG. With updated Model 3 deliveries back on track, Tesla wasn’t outsold by BYD again. Brand Sales Change YoY Toyota 19,374 +35.2% Mazda 7350 -4.1% Ford 7275 +20.8% Nissan 6617 +157.2% Mitsubishi 6411 +16.6% Kia 6141 +2.4% Hyundai 5703 +3.6% Tesla 5665 +61.1% Isuzu Ute 4692 +48.7% MG 4474 +2.5% Subaru 3802 -6.2% GWM 3458 +47% Volkswagen 3169 +8.2% Suzuki 1742 +26% BMW 1710 +63.3% Honda 1709 +39.2% Mercedes-Benz 1645 -8.9% BYD 1549 +101.2% LDV 1387 -16% Audi 1219 -27.4% Lexus 1009 +40.9% Porsche 717 +16.8% Chery 629 – Volvo 604 -29.6% Skoda 533 -17.4% Land Rover 520 +293.9% Renault 514 -9.7% SsangYong 422 -11% Ram 325 -40.6% Chevrolet 287 +33.5% Mini 286 +53.8% Cupra 219 +3.8% Jeep 219 -44.1% Peugeot 206 +82.3% Polestar 113 -34.3% Fiat 104 -32.9% Genesis 75 -31.8% Alfa Romeo 64 +113.3% Jaguar 43 +95.5% Maserati 34 +36% Lamborghini 18 +20% Lotus 17 +30.8% Citroen 13 0% Ferrari 13 -40.9% Bentley 11 -75.6% Aston Martin 9 -10% Rolls-Royce 4 +300% McLaren 2 -50% Models After snatching the crown from the Toyota HiLux in 2023, the Ford Ranger was once again Australia’s best-selling vehicle. Not only that, it managed to beat the HiLux in 4×2 ute sales – typically, the Ranger only beats the HiLux in 4×4 sales. The Isuzu D-Max also pushed past the HiLux in 4×2 sales. The Tesla Model 3 overtook the Model Y in sales, no doubt buoyed by a recent update and the resumption of sales following a brief pause to address a compliance issue. The Nissan X-Trail stormed past all its mid-sized SUV rivals bar the Toyota RAV4. Ford Ranger: 5353 Toyota HiLux: 4403 Tesla Model 3: 3593 Isuzu D-Max: 2941 Toyota RAV4: 2843 Nissan X-Trail: 2508 Toyota Corolla: 2439 MG ZS: 2357 Mitsubishi Outlander: 2209 Tesla Model Y: 2072 Isuzu MU-X: 1751 Hyundai Tucson: 1687 Mazda CX-5: 1642 Toyota LandCruiser wagon: 1578 Toyota Camry: 1552 Mitsubishi Triton: 1537 Nissan Navara: 1501 Mazda BT-50: 1389 Hyundai i30: 1372 Kia Sportage: 1350 |
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I see the F150 has given the RAM 1500 a big hit almost matching their sales.
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F150 sales are mostly made up of dealer demos, most dealers put on at least 1 if not 2 cars.
The F150 program has been managed terribly between Ford and RMA from a sales priority point of view. For anyone interested Utes > $100k Ram 1500 (283) Ford F-150 (255) Chevrolet Silverado 1500 (171)
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Ford Escape – 55 Ford Everest – 1059 Ford F-150 – 255 Ford Fiesta – 0 Ford Focus – 0 Ford Mustang – 0 Ford Mustang Mach-E – 66 Ford Puma – 232 Ford Ranger 4x2 – 582 Ford Ranger 4x4 – 4771 Ford Transit Bus – 2 Ford Transit Custom – 183 Ford Transit Heavy – 70 Ford Total – 7275
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The Federal Government has shown a clear desire to legislate us into zero emission vehicles, let's see how that goes for Ford, or basically any manufacturer that isn't Toyota/Mazda or electric only.
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Is it the 1st time 4x2 Ranger has beaten 4x2 Hilux?
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Even the D-Max 4x2 pipped Hilux with 524 sales to 516, so you can bet that
something serious was up with Toyota’s deliveries last month…. Not to take anything away from Ford’s success but we would need to see that happen for the next few months to show that it was an actual repeatable event. |
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I dont think so. That was more to do with dealers registering cars and not using them genuinely for demo purpose before covid. Since covid that practice doesn't exist anymore due to lack of stock and no incentives from manufacturers to do so. They can still report genuine demos as sold cars. Same goes for Service loan cars, which are typically sold as used vehicles once they have done their time.
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vehicles and taking the sales for vehicles still at dealerships…. Makes me wonder if the difference is that a lot of those demos moved quickly because of the reduced price? Or was it simply UNIFOR bile because a registration is a registration because demos are actually sold vehicles? These days, buyers are happy to get any sort of discount on favourite vehicles, it’s been literally years of price gouging…. |
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Not sure there is a supply issue with Hilux. Toyota Ad on TV this morning advertising Hilux models in stock ready for immediate delivery.
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Facelift Hilux due in showrooms this month I believe with 165kw GR Sport an addition to the lineup so buyers probably holding out.
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what's the deal with zero Mustang?
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S550 went out of production a year ago now, so sales during that time have been from cars already built and on a ship or dealer floor stock.
S650 was supposed to arrive in Nov/Dec 2023, then Feb 2024, then Apr 2024, the Aug 2024, now Oct 2024..........................They could have easily been selling the 150 to 200 cars a month if someone at Ford pulled their finger out.
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Don't get me started, a bunch of 13-year-olds could do a better than the highly educated university graduates making the key decisions within Ford.
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Just on initial thought's , obviously any UK and South African sold model, plus any factory RHD built vehicle from N/A.....what else? |
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either that or reduce to select runs with set numbers and colours available “We will sell you what we decide to build” is that the way things are going? |
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This is my thinking too. I does seem like they have gone far enough down the track for S650 to launch, but I still think they are stringing it out until people lose interest, then they will axe it sighting a lack of demand. Love for this not to be the case, but its getting old waiting for a car that will have been out in the USA for two years, so it will be outdated by the time it arrives. Ford then expect buyers to stump up $100,000 for the privilege.
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Am i being sack-religious saying Ford Australia would almost be better off to go grovelling to Mazda to relive the past in bringing back the Laser off the 3 and make the Escape off the CX5 ect.
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Not at all. Mazda are at the very least a full service manufacturer, Ford are not.
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Ford dealers would be pushed selling much more stock then they currently are. The ones I work with are pretty much over capacity as far as storage, predelivery and servicing go. There is actually potential for Ford to increase sites with current demand but I think dealers are reluctant to invest with the NVES on the horizon and what that may do to do the likes of Ranger etc.
As for Mustang I have given up. So cranky I sold my S550 a year ago on the premise my S650 was coming late last year.
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