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Old 05-11-2018, 06:08 PM   #1
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Default VFACTS Oct 2018

https://www.caradvice.com.au/699508/...vehicle-sales/

Nothing much out of the ordinary this month.

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EcoSport 101
Escape 293
Everest 369
Falcon 1
Fiesta 4
Focus 104
Mondeo 193
Mustang 569
Ranger 4x2 417
Ranger 4x4 3094
Transit 217

Just wish Ford would push harder with Ranger 4x2. I know they don't want to peruse lower profit models but I feel there is great value in having the Number One bragging wrights.
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That 1 x Falcon must have been the unregistered Sprint which was found and sold last month.
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https://www.goauto.com.au/news/vfact...-05/76298.html


Commodore 663
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Commodore 663
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Focus is in run out (104) so hopefully the new model is here early next year and Escape after that.
Looking like those two will be more like Mazda 3 and CX-5 ...hopefully the sales will be similar.
At least Ford isn't sitting on a mountain of stock...

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How many of those Commodore sales were VFII's?
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All of them, VFII stock was considered extinguished a couple of months back.
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The scary thing is as woeful as Holden is right now.
They were only 106 vehicles in sales behind Ford for the month.
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Many of those will be SA Police units plus hire fleets would now be replacing the VF.

Like many here I have yet to see a ZB although I did think I may have saw one a few months ago but not confirmed as it could have been anything as it didn't stand out.

Their problem is the public aren't buying them in decent numbers to the extent Holden recently cancelled production as there holding paddocks are full.
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Don't forget, Holden is doing backflips at the moment with lots of good deals....they have to.
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All of them, VFII stock was considered extinguished a couple of months back.

Still 43 brand new VFIIs listed for sale on carsales as of today.
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I was in Canberra late last week, tons of ZB's on the road there, fleet no doubt
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Still 43 brand new VFIIs listed for sale on carsales as of today.
From the time I started this response, the number of new VFIIs went from 15 to 13
maybe they are old ads taking a while to be withdrawn...

(The only accurate way would be to ask a dealer to look up how many are still available)

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The scary thing is as woeful as Holden is right now.
They were only 106 vehicles in sales behind Ford for the month.
Tbh for all the criticism of Holden's sales ATM, deals or no deals that's not a terrible number given how many rangers sell ATM.
Yes I get the hunting profit idea ford is running ATM by aiming for higher profit models, but that gap shows how much ford relies on ranger ATM, what's fords next best model, mustang at 550 something numbers?

I just hope ford management here don't fall into the trap as time goes on with ranger and become vain enough to think that it's ranger, it will sell and that they keep improving it and not just minor tweaks here and there.

Does anyone have the monthly breakup of models sold by ford and holden?
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Tbh for all the criticism of Holden's sales ATM, deals or no deals that's not a terrible number given how many rangers sell ATM.
Yes I get the hunting profit idea ford is running ATM by aiming for higher profit models, but that gap shows how much ford relies on ranger ATM, what's fords next best model, mustang at 550 something numbers?

I just hope ford management here don't fall into the trap as time goes on with ranger and become vain enough to think that it's ranger, it will sell and that they keep improving it and not just minor tweaks here and there.

Does anyone have the monthly breakup of models sold by ford and holden?
This is where the benefit of an internationally sold model helps. With US now about to start sales the model update/upgrade path has to be maintained like Mustang.
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All of them, VFII stock was considered extinguished a couple of months back.

34 (VF2)out of 663 Commodores according to caradvice.com.au
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This is where the benefit of an internationally sold model helps. With US now about to start sales the model update/upgrade path has to be maintained like Mustang.
To a point maybe, but I don't fully agree, if that were 100 percent true, would we not benefit from all the options that the us mustang has in Australia?
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Ford has some new product coming out so it's not all doom and gloom.

Has the Acadia been released yet? And if so how has it sold?
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Has the Acadia been released yet? And if so how has it sold?
They were holing a reveal night at our local dealer when we were looking at the Barina recently, was fairly busy but wether they took many orders or not is anyones guess.
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They had an Acadia on display at Bathurst, wasn't drawing much attention i thought
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I was in Canberra late last week, tons of ZB's on the road there, fleet no doubt
I work there(but don’t live there.) I am seeing quite few.(& they are privately owned) Have seen no local OR Fed gov’t plated ones.Cheers
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Has the Acadia been released yet? And if so how has it sold?
203 from it’s release.(Oct ‘18) Cheers.
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Don't forget, Holden is doing backflips at the moment with lots of good deals....they have to.
They are absolutely cutting the guts out of the price in shear desperation just to move all the piles of stock they have. Profit margins must be razor thin.

The resale values must be putrid too.
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To a point maybe, but I don't fully agree, if that were 100 percent true, would we not benefit from all the options that the us mustang has in Australia?
That should be fair enough however I'm not sure, what role/hindrance if any, our ADR requirements have in this case...tbh (as I've repeated before and hope is changed one day) it's our ADR's and the cost of compliance of a car locally for all the possible variants that holds us back to an extent as consumers for choice, plus not all things for Mustang are designed for a RHD install iirc. It should be "if it passes EU or US or Japanese regs" then maybe it should be good enough for us...unless there is something that is just not safe enough which I cannot see existing.
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The graphical stats for October are now uploaded to the Tech portal.

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Thanks Russ, any idea what sales numbers were
for Spark, Trax, Trailblazer and Captiva?

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Why does the blue line representing Ranger 4x4 on the graph stop well short of the current month?
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Thanks Russ, any idea what Trax, Captiva sales were?
Trax 449
Captiva 329 (WHO the hell is still buying this piece of...........)
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One more please, Trailblazer.....must be well below Everest.
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Wasn't that long ago they were 1000s of units in front.
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