VE 6 cylinder hush up?

xr8lover · 10-09-2011, 06:15 PM

Interesting to find out that owners of VE V6's are experiencing lots of timing chain issues that is identified by a logged fault in the computer system, strange how all this has been kept mighty quiet yet people like Herald-Sun motoring writers just get their big thrills out of constantly reporting any fault in a Ford product, ah yes, good old favouritism again!

burnz · 10-09-2011, 06:23 PM

shhh it a holden...

it's the first i've heard of it!!! any proof??

Road_Warrior · 10-09-2011, 06:35 PM

Do tell...

crakrz · 10-09-2011, 06:41 PM

Because of the direct injection, and the injectors being exposed to combustion temps, I know of a few VE's v6's that have already had the heads off within first 6 months. I apologise if this is already common knowledge. I don't keep up with the Generals product much.

prydey · 10-09-2011, 06:44 PM

its all a conspiracy against ford

KuRT12 · 10-09-2011, 06:45 PM

We have two in our family, and a few friends with them.

havent heard of this issue?

Brazen · 10-09-2011, 08:14 PM

Havnt heard of any issue as well. Its the biggest selling car in the country Im sure if it was a major issue it would show up, like VWs problem with DSG gearboxes and 1.8litre motors.

THE CADBURY KID · 10-09-2011, 08:17 PM

i know for a fact holdens fix for a noisy gearbox on a newish commodore is some insulation/sound deadener around the shifter hole in the floor

yift · 10-09-2011, 09:53 PM

timing chain issues have been evident since the rattletech motor was released in the vz.

burnz · 10-09-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by yift

timing chain issues have been evident since the rattletech motor was released in the vz.

unrelated, but then..

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Originally Posted by free

i know for a fact holdens fix for a noisy gearbox on a newish commodore is some insulation/sound deadener around the shifter hole in the floor

link??

nstg8a · 10-09-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

link??

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11342618

its on the intraweb, it must be true

stang65 · 10-09-2011, 10:33 PM

lol I keep clicking on link and iI`m back where I started .........Bwahahahahah

burnz · 10-09-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11342618

its on the intraweb, it must be true

and i clicked the link..ha ha

mrghia · 10-09-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

and i clicked the link..ha ha

so did I

747jet · 10-09-2011, 11:59 PM

thats been happening for years timing chain stretch causeing all 4 cam sensors to log codes. it can do damaged to engines as well. good old holden cant get it right. and what about the v8 with the bottom end knock holden have been fitting new carnkshafts and bearings to the ve range.But the ****** boxes keep selling 6 years of the same car what are ppl thinking BRAIN WASHED.

2011G6E · 11-09-2011, 02:07 AM

Ya know...if it was a real problem it would be kind of hard to keep it hushed up like some big conspiracy when they sell so damn many of them.
Obviously whatever the "computers are logging as a fault" isn't causing catastrophic failures or numerous breakdowns, or someone would have noticed by now and reported it in the media.

"Sound deadener as a fix for noisy gearboxes"? Looking around under our G6E for example, I notice that there's an awful lot of sound deadener in a new Falcon...that 4.0 engine, while being powerful and pleasant to drive and economical, certainly isn't what you could call "smooth and refined" if you actually listen to the thing carefully for a while.

mik · 11-09-2011, 02:25 PM

if it`s a nasty fault give it a bit more time till they start getting some k`s up, people will start having a winge when it cost them money, but time will tell.

Windsor220 · 11-09-2011, 02:34 PM

Quite a common thing with the Alloytech engines. Captiva too. They stretch out after about 2 years. Just one of the many issues with the VE.

xr8lover · 11-09-2011, 06:21 PM

I told the mother in law who has a VE that has nothing but problems to burn the silly thing, she has been quoted around $28oo to repair the timing chain issue.... maybe she should purchase a XR6, no probs there boys!

ReVd_uP · 11-09-2011, 06:27 PM

Ive seen the timing chain issue on VE V6s first hand, had to replace chains on one at my old work, a Ford dealer of all places....apparently a very common problem in early VE's, holden has a TSB on the issue....

jpd80 · 11-09-2011, 07:21 PM

This sorrow first showed up in the early Alloytecs fitted to the VZ and then early VEs.

It's a shame that Ford's brilliant Duratec 35 and 37 are constantly compared
to the disgraceful GM HFV6, they are worlds apart in terms of reliability......

Edit,
It would be a cold day in hell before you ever see a problem like this in the FG Falcon I-6,
stuff like stretched timing chains was cured nearly 20 years ago, hate to be in Holden's shoes.

xr8lover · 11-09-2011, 07:27 PM

Code comes up as code poo18 crankshaft intake camshaft position, long live Ford's brilliant in-line 6!

290v · 11-09-2011, 08:08 PM

one of our cars (Fleet car) a new Holden Cruise Diesel had to go in for engine light coming on they would reset it and give it back to us in the end it took $4,000 dollars worth of Cam repairs to fix it the car had done 5,000Kms

GT-E · 11-09-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

like VWs problem with DSG gearboxes and 1.8litre motors.

Yep, I have a mate who has a 3 month old one that has had both replaced already.

xr8lover · 11-09-2011, 08:19 PM

Gotta wonder why Ford in so much trouble when their FG is such a great car?, I think the trouble is marketing?

Sundeep · 11-09-2011, 08:36 PM

80,000km 1 year old Caprice SIDI V6 drank almost 2L of oil between services. Dealer said that it's "common" for them to do that. Really? 2L? It's ok though, they know about it - so it's got a 6.7L sump on it. Lol.

Have a engine light coming on sometimes too, Holden dealer just clears the code and gives the car back. Will make sure I pay more attention as to what code it is next time.

Still love the car though. It's great.

munkky · 11-09-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

shhh it a holden...

it's the first i've heard of it!!! any proof??

wh havent been told because people put chev badges on them and say its a chev problem lol

f1tzy · 12-09-2011, 12:17 AM

I had a vz sv6 ute that i sold at 110k and that had no issues at all yet my ba xr8 that i bought which had 75k on it had timing chain rattle and the issues with the heads so i think your barking up the wrong tree

stang65 · 12-09-2011, 12:55 AM

Maybe your BA had been thrashed as you weren`t the original owner?

stevz · 12-09-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

It would be a cold day in hell before you ever see a problem like this in the FG Falcon I-6

Thats probably because Ford has had 50 years worth of development to get the I6 where it is now. And you'd have to have a very short memory to say it has been trouble free over that time. Far from it. Even the FG I6 isn't immune from issues, I have read a number of reports of FG's requiring complete engine replacements on this very forum.