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Oh my, the voices are starting about putting extra taxes on SUVs and larger vehicles to 'reduce the road toll' in Victoria:
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The Thailand Special is coming under further and further scrutiny, as well as SUVs: Quote:
Sounds a lot like the same rhetoric that was used to turn low level speeding fines into a revenue source, given we've (VIC) got state and a federal government lead by cucks who pander towards the kombucha drinking, rainbow flag waving communists, I think this is probably going to be on the agenda, given these people quoted in these articles have the ear of the state government at the inquiry, as well as having a state government currently trying to recover some funds by cancelling infrastructure projects and events. Whats your thoughts about the idea of levies and more expensive regos on Thailand Specials and SUVs? Would this effect your decision if you're on the SUV/Thailand Special train? Or you'd be happy to stay on even if it costs a little more every year, if there's large vehicle levies put on in inner suburban areas? Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 24-08-2023 at 07:50 PM. |
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Marion Terrill, a transport and cities expert at the Grattan Institute 1 person
Road safety experts propose levy plurral Someone put an investigator on this dame and see what see might be driving.. Range Rover Discovery/ BMW/Porsche ???
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My wife and I recently spent 8 weeks in hospital, narrowly missing pushing up daisies. Caused by a Honda Civic. We survived because our Pathfinder protected us.
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Not just the largest ones, they're all a pain the ar$e. Slow cumbersome and block the view in front, they are a road hazard. Travelling behind one is like travelling behind a truck, but they dont realise that, and drive them like they are in car. The few that drive them spiritedly are probably most represented in those statistics. I dont mind travelling behind trucks, always corteous to a truck driver doing a job, and they are mostly corteous by keeping left and not slowing and blocking the traffic flow.
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or we could just ban bull bars like most other countries.
or teach people to look before they step out into the road or ban honda civics |
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Can imagine it now if they make lanes or parking spots narrower. Tossers in their 'trucks' will still squeeze into them...
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I have said many times.
Go to youtube and watch the latest Australian Dash Cam Owners Video or Bad Driving Australia Compilation and you will see what the issues are. None of them are what they are talking about in the article. There are idiots on the road that don't know how to drive or don't give a crap about anything. That is it. It doesn't matter if you put them in a Kia Picanto or a Dodge Ram, they are still an idiot and will do the same things regardless of what they are sitting in. Look at the Videos. What is the hangup with what people buy and drive, and how they use their vehicle? There is a small, like very very small minority that keep spewing this garbage over and over. They are not elected into their position and have no right to speak on behalf of the majority of road users who actually spend many hours on the roads each day.
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For unknown reasons the Civic left the side of the blacktop then veered back onto the road across onto our side Head on in a 100 zone and yes it totalled the Pathfinder.
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Restrictions on large vehicles within the city roads has already started in some countries. Whether it be for safety or emissions or whatever, we'll eventually follow.
Used to live in this block in London. Look what they have now done. They have put barriers so that only small cars can enter the side streets. I don't reckon the Z4 I had could fit through there...and I'd classify that as a small car! ![]()
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OK so I've been thinking about the bluff square fronts of the new dual cabs and come to the conclusion that the car in front of them which they are tailgating actually provides the streamlined air flow and reduction in Cd.
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Said non elected, very small minority has been speaking to and advising the Victorian government in an inquiry and making suggestions - thats the problem.
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As for the tax perks being a major driver in the take up of larger vehicles, is there statistical proof of this?
Caravan sales over the last 5 years or so has been increasing exponentially almost. It stands to reason that larger cars capable of towing will also follow a similar trend. Camping/4x4/off road industry is extremely healthy. Perhaps those who don't drive larger cars are just jealous that they aren't out enjoying this great country.
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WTF is happening to this country
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Have just ordered a Y62 Patrol. They can get stuffed.
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maybe all the states should impose a levy on Victorian owned caravans.... I reckon a million dollars per millimeter travelled, paid in advance and non refundable should do it....
One of the dumb bastards decided to do a u-turn through centre parking in the middle of town yesterday..... blocking the street for the best part of 15 minutes instead of going through the roundabout 3 blocks further up the street!
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'Road safety experts' ?
A bit like the one-man-band 'Pedestrian Safety Council' in NSW ? But they do have a point, even if it is misdirected. I would prefer them to look at licencing for drivers of these bigger, heavier vehicles. It seems OK for some-one, of any age, to have driven Corolla type vehicles for any period of time, to buy a Silverado (2,540kg) or LandCruiser (2,740KG), hook up a 3,000kg caravan, plus all the necessary other items, and head off into the Great Outback with 6 tonne of high speed metal, all legally with no extra driver training. Heavy vehicle drivers are required to have training and a relevant licence, why not drivers of these bigger vehicles |
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Make it a five day course, cover everything from 6x4s to loaded machinery trailers and large caravans, get out the witches hats and send out army of grey nomads out to reverse circles everywhere and drive around for a few days under controlled conditions, then do a licence test circuit at the end. Then give them a nice shiny certificate at the end, obligatory class photo with everyone and then send them off to be a pain in the *** Australia-wide ![]() |
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Not to mention the statistics just don't support it.
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I like how if you overload your caravan they go the 'education' route, but you do it in a truck and the fines start at $3000 for minor breaches: Quote:
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Anti caravan discussion is off topic
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Thats funny, we're only talking about caravans because of this:
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![]() I suspect its part of the discussion, because we're talking about large vehicles and extra levies, there's a group of people who own these vehicles, because they're caravanners. |
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Feel free to discuss the topic of larger vehicles. The fact they're used for a number of purposes proves that many people buy them because they need them. Not just for some tax perk. That was my point. Small minority just get the sulks because other people choose different vehicles to them.
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