November Vfacts

[Falcon Freak]

The November 2005 sales figures will be released early next week. It will be interesting to see how the local models performed as there have been a number of changes as follows:

- Ford released the BF Falcon - how well did it sell?
- Holden's first full month of the employee discount - did the incentives increase their new car sales?
- Mitsubishi 380 - first full month. Will it achieve over 2000 sales after the dismal half month in October where they only sold 951?
- Toyota Camry and Avalon - nothing new for either model so did Toyota lose any gound to the other three?

What are people's predictions?

FF

[Redrum]

BF's hardly seen any one road, average sales
Holden, not much better
380 I think will sell around 1200-1500 mark
Toyota, same as previos month

I predict an average month with nothing exciting.
: : :

[Bossxr8]

I'm expecting Falcon sales to be low. Things aren't looking good.

[Dave_au]

Corolla will probably come either second or first in the overall sales - Hilux was getting up there too in the last couple of months! (3492 off the top of my head compared to falcs 3900 or so for sept? Oct was better fords way)

[smoo]

I'm hoping the 380 did well. And Toyota got beaten by the three others. *hopefully* but unlikely.

Fiesta - 616
Focus - 825
Falcon - 5064
Territory - 2224
Falcon ute - 1423

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by RATT

Fiesta - 616
Focus - 825
Falcon - 5064
Territory - 2224
Falcon ute - 1423

Not bad but I was hoping for better. What about Fairlane/LTD sales - do you have numbers for this category?

FF

[tbearz]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

Not bad but I was hoping for better. What about Fairlane/LTD sales - do you have numbers for this category?

FF

Havent been much for a while, only be a couple of hundred max

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by RATT

Fiesta - 616
Focus - 825
Falcon - 5064
Territory - 2224
Falcon ute - 1423

Good to see the Focus is still selling like crap because Ford cant get anymore into the country.. Good work guys 10 out of 10 again :

Falcon Sales were alright tho, with the discounts they are giving at the moment you would hope they would be better.

[Dave_au]

Originally Posted by ShockWaveXR6na

Good to see the Focus is still selling like crap because Ford cant get anymore into the country

I don't think they ever really stood a chance against accent and corolla.

[Smoke Pursuit]

They could, but A) you cant get one for 3 months and B) the finish is c r a p. The car rates very highly in comparison to its competitors, but to be sucessful in this market you really need to press the right buttons with respect to value for money and quality!

Ford have real quality issues which they need to rectify if they wish to be sucessful in Australia for much longer, that goes for Falcon, Territory and Focus as there are certainly lemons floating around!

[Falcon Freak]

The official figures were released today. The following is a summary of Australian manufactured vehicles only:

FORD Month YTD Nov 04 YTD 04

Falcon 5,064 49,543 5,628 59,776
Territory 2,224 21,251 1,912 11,399
Ute 1,423 16,711 1,607 18,429
Fairlane/LTD 152 1,818 157 2,077

Total 8,863 89,323 9,304 91,681

HOLDEN Month YTD Nov 04 YTD 04

Commodore 5,276 62,324 7,301 73,132
Adventra 389 2,797 111 2,353
Ute 4x2, 4x4 1,916 18,444 1,848 20,343
Stat./Caprice 266 3,355 427 4,281
Monaro 338 2,515 283 2,432

Total 8,185 89,435 9,970 102,541

TOYOTA Month YTD Nov 04 YTD 04

Camry 4cyl 1,922 22,291 2,123 23,259
Camry 6cyl 1,027 10,379 1,416 12,607
Avalon 30 2,901 459 5,207

Total 2,979 35,571 3,998 41,073

MITSUBISHI Month YTD Nov 04 YTD 04

380 1,650 2,601 0 0
Magna V6 181 11,197 1,351 13,055
Verada 37 1,016 211 1,503

Total 1,868 14,814 1,562 14,558


TOTAL 21,895 229,143 24,834 249,853


FF

[Falcon Freak]

Why does this stupid forum lose the formatting?????

FF

[SpoolMan]

Falcon only 200 units behind the commodore, not a bad effort... Considering Holden’s big push on employee pricing campaign.
Adventra is on fire 389 units

[Falcon Freak]

I agree as I thought the Holden employee discount would see them sell a large number of cars. With the BF release the things that caught my attention are as follows:

- Ford outsold Holden of locally manufactured models by almost 700 vehicles
- Falcon's November figure is down by less than 600 on Nov 2004
- Commodore's November figure is down by just over 2000 on Nov 2004
- Ford's YTD figure is down approximately 2,300 on same time last year
- Holden's YTD figure is down just over 13,000 on the same time last year

I am confident that if Holden wasn't offering so big incentives on the VZ that the BF would have been first this month.

FF

[Dave_au]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I am confident that if Holden wasn't offering so big incentives on the VZ that the BF would have been first this month.

I'm not entirely. From what I understand the holden employee discount is not available to fleet purchases, which take up the majority of large car sales. Additionally, the offer only applys to pre 1 Oct 2005 complianced vehicles, so not even every private sale would be receiving the offer.

[XR Martin]

30 Avalons :

[Dave_au]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

30 Avalons :

They quietly stopped building them in July.

[Lukeyson]

am i correct in reading Ford outsold Holden by near 700 units ?

[Homer1]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

30 Avalons :

That's still 30 too many! :evilsasmo

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by XR8fella

am i correct in reading Ford outsold Holden by near 700 units ?

Not because that doesnt include Astra, Rodeo, Barina etc which outsells its Ford rivals.

[gmhdriver]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

30 Avalons :

Whats the bet that they're all yellow too!

[Ghiadude]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

No because that doesnt include Astra, Rodeo, Barina etc which outsells its Ford rivals.

locally made models yes they did.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by XR8fella

am i correct in reading Ford outsold Holden by near 700 units ?

Yes you are.

FF

[Franky]

overall they are a long way behind

btw is there any facts for viva and barina...? interesting to see if value outsells quality

[AUIII XR8 MAN]

That not to bad to see that Ford hasn't loose to many sale on last year figure unlike Holden. How knows Ford mite beat Holden in local made sale this year!