Extractors - Are they really worth it??

Ritchie's5spED · 04-05-2006, 02:38 PM

Hey y'all.

Been after an exhaust for some time now (insurance issues) and i have been offered extractors and exhaust for $700.
Exhaust is $290.

Do extractors effect sound and performance much or are they a waste of money?

Cheers.

-jjM- · 04-05-2006, 02:42 PM

they will give ur car a nice street tone, for proformance, they do help but dont expect huge difference, they are worth it with exhust

EA2BA · 04-05-2006, 02:42 PM

they are a very worthy enahancement, extractors and exhuast will provide a nice gain on just about any stock engine.

Ritchie's5spED · 04-05-2006, 02:45 PM

I've been told they give a deeper sound. But i don't want the massive drone.

niko · 04-05-2006, 02:47 PM

in that case get a hotdog fitted in ya tailpipe, my car has full system pacemakers, 2.5" piping, sports muffler, with a reallly big hotdog, and its a treat on the freeway etc. but when you boot it, sounds wikid

tex · 04-05-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ritchie's5spED

I've been told they give a deeper sound. But i don't want the massive drone.

Hi mate.

Ive got a EF I6 (5 speed) with genie extractors, 21/2 pipework (press bent) into a single SS Walker Ultraflow muffler, no res.

No drone, just a deeper, more angry note when I'm up it.

I fitted the extractors sometime after the cat back system, and yes it did change the note a little. Sounds more 'hollow', not raspy or anything, just more open or something. Probably makes no sense, but there you go !

The above combination took RWKW from 102 (stock) to 118. Noticably more eager to go ALL the way to redline. Still not like a twin cammer, but much better.

Bonus was a slight improvement in consumption of the liquid gold.......

hope this helps.

**Polyal** · 04-05-2006, 03:06 PM

well I asked the same thing ages ago and got hammered...even though I was told by a guy who works with ford that they dont do that much...which is true, but they do a little bit atleast.

Im going to put a ful system just for the fuel saving benefits...lol

gozza · 04-05-2006, 03:08 PM

just for splitting hairs sake....i thought the correct term was headers.....extractors are used for race applications.........a dude at macs mufflers told me that...didn't quite understand lol

niko · 04-05-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

well I asked the same thing ages ago and got hammered...even though I was told by a guy who works with ford that they dont do that much...which is true, but they do a little bit atleast.

Im going to put a ful system just for the fuel saving benefits...lol

i did think that they only did a little bit, untill i went backwards with my 1st ea, pulled the exhaust off and put it back to stock as i was selling it, IT WAS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was soooo noticeable it was not funny

**Polyal** · 04-05-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

just for splitting hairs sake....i thought the correct term was headers.....extractors are used for race applications.........a dude at macs mufflers told me that...didn't quite understand lol

tomato, tomatoe..meh

ok that saying doesn't quite work when you type it, you know what I mean

gozza · 04-05-2006, 03:20 PM

no worries...i didn't know if there were any physical differences

i got what you meant....pyjamas...pyjammers

you get that one lol??

djmaker · 04-05-2006, 03:25 PM

i was looking on ebay for extractors for my eb xr8 and i saw under some pacemaker ones for i6 it said dose not fit with gas system???? i have a gas system on my eb will this conflict??? and also saw some prices for eb xr8 pacemaker ph4000 for $575 it is from a store on ebay but there in hallam and so am i so yeah no delivery charges and crap.. that a good price and good extractors???

Thanx

gozza · 04-05-2006, 03:31 PM

if you get the headers with a hi flo cat and nice exhaust + CAI+ {POD(for response not power)} it will be definately noticeable

crannersEL · 04-05-2006, 03:33 PM

I didnt really notice too much of a difference once the extractors were fitted, fuel econ is about the same, but it may pull a little bit harder i guess. Would have been interesting to get it dyno'd stock then after the exhaust was fitted to see what type of gain i got.

Another reason i got it all done at once is because it worked out alot cheaper, than getting different bits and pieces done at differnet times.

Once you've got them fitted repost back saying what you think.

Paul

SupahStah · 04-05-2006, 03:38 PM

Extractors are worth it for me, my old ED had just a 2.5" exhaust(no extractors), and on idle it was ok, but when u drive off it sounded soooo dopey.
After I installed extractors the sound was sooo much better. I'd never go for a performance exhaust without extractors.

I am looking into a entire exhaust system for my EL XR soon, and there aint no way im skippn the extractors

Ritchie's5spED · 04-05-2006, 03:46 PM

Thanks people. Sounds like they are the way to go.
I'll let you know of my decision and progress.
Cheers
Ritchie

-jjM- · 04-05-2006, 03:50 PM

just exacly where did u get offered the exhust fitted from, thats not a bad price for all that

Ritchie's5spED · 04-05-2006, 04:03 PM

Joint in Ringwood.
They quoted 450 for extractors
290 for exhaust

Asked them if they could do it for 700 and they said it would be fine.

Makes it more tempting.

Red back exhaust, pacemaker or genie headers.
Magnaflow hi performance cat

-jjM- · 04-05-2006, 04:09 PM

get pacemakers comps for that price, is that what ur gettin or did u just ask for standard

but for 700, thats still prity good

Ritchie's5spED · 04-05-2006, 04:16 PM

They are high performance headers, would that mean comps?
Just gotta change insurance

blackers10 · 04-05-2006, 04:17 PM

i think extractors open the gateway to all ur other mods

ie the exhaust manifold becomes the restriction eventually
so by removing it at the start .. you open the flood gates to all the new power you get!!

i have just gotten a 2.5" press bent exhaust with single muffler for $280 from bruce mcleans at caboolture and my car seems to go better but not THAT much better..
with extractors im presuming it will haul alot nicer to redline ...the pace at which the car goes from 100rpm to 6000rpm is where the ehxuast shows its colours i think

EDXR6T · 04-05-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ritchie's5spED

They are high performance headers, would that mean comps?
Just gotta change insurance

can u gett the series number on them plz
if ther 4499's ther not comp's

LTDHO · 04-05-2006, 04:52 PM

Extractors are without a doubt the best modification you can do for the fact that they make the motor more efficent (less fuel) and more powerful.

niko · 04-05-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EDXR6T

if ther 4499's ther not comp's

if you want a nice idle, get the 4499's if you want a really stoko idle, get the 4480 comps

EDXR6T · 04-05-2006, 05:03 PM

^^
well i was look at the 4499's over the comp's
and ther's not lot of diffrence (pipe size)
the comp's secondary is 4mm smaller over the 4499's witch im guessing gives the comp's that stock idle

it depend's on how big the price diffrence is

Go Fords!! · 04-05-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

just for splitting hairs sake....i thought the correct term was headers.....extractors are used for race applications.........a dude at macs mufflers told me that...didn't quite understand lol

Headers is just an american term for extractors..they are exactly the same thing

I have just put a set of lukey extractors on my ef gli and have found a fair difference..easier to rev and less throttle used to get same amount of go...As in my signature I have a full system, minus high flow cat (not doing high revs) and I got it all for under $400!!

crannersEL · 04-05-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchie's5spED

Joint in Ringwood.
They quoted 450 for extractors
290 for exhaust

Asked them if they could do it for 700 and they said it would be fine.

Makes it more tempting.

Red back exhaust, pacemaker or genie headers.
Magnaflow hi performance cat

Was that Ringwood Performance Exhaust in ringwood near mazda? Because i went through there also, happy with the service and product.

Where are you from also?

EF_Frmnt · 04-05-2006, 06:08 PM

What you really need is a head that flows much more than standard... hmmm wonder where you can get one of those hint hint look at my sig nudge nudge

On a serious note yeah they are worth it. Saves fuel IF you drive it easy, and sounds better when your up it.

EB Pete · 04-05-2006, 07:10 PM

i got the standard paccies + hi flowcat + 2 1/2 mercury system. it sounded pretty good but the performance was awsome. from about 2800rpm upwards it was a completely different car.

also the 'better' paccies are really only worth the money if you get a mild+ cam. this is cause they are 'tuned' better therefor with the mild+ cam with the nice overlap of exhuast/intake they work alot better and they link the firer and exhast strokes up for even better results.

Ritchie's5spED · 05-05-2006, 08:11 AM

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Was that Ringwood Performance Exhaust in ringwood near mazda? Because i went through there also, happy with the service and product.

Yeah that is them. Seems like a good bloke i'm dealing with.
I'll be looking to sort it all out early next week.

Living in Camberwell/Alexandra.
Working in Sunshine.
Drive quite a bit.