Am I Wasting My Time?

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 03:38 PM

Hi all,
i have been planning a turbo conversion for my ea for a few months now and i am a little worried. Im only fairly new to the FF's and by what i have been reading you cant do a turbo conversion unless your loaded? Is there anyone out there that has done one for a resonable price? I am fortunate to work in a automotive retail shop and have acess to any parts at cost price. I currently have in my shed a vl turbo, kingspring lows, lowered monroe gt's, a xf fairmont ghia lsd (needs rebuilding) and a full Nolathane evo kit, now i know this is only a small amount of what i need but so far this has cost me under $1000 i plan on having as much stuff as i possibly need before starting the conversion. i plan on doing handling & suspension first. Does this sound ok or am i wasting my time?

EA2BA · 23-11-2006, 03:40 PM

you are going to need to source manifolds next, and pending boost an intercooler.

I think what we need is a turbo build checklit/shopping list, so people can just buy bits cheap when they come up and be happy at the end.

does someone have a nice list of required parts?

P.S. anything can be done cheap and a good job, just need to buy parts cheap and do 99% of the work yourself.

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 03:47 PM

im doing as much as i can myself i also pretty much know what i need but the list just shows what i got to start.
a list would be good though....
i have access to another head and was planning a cam and valve springs...will the turbo require a particular cam?

BLKPHN · 23-11-2006, 03:47 PM

the list kinda never end there is allways other things you need try a search and you will come up with usefull information,
try snort performance they have cheap kits and are very efective for the price.

exhaust manifold
turbo
wastegate
dump pipe
intercooler
intercooler piping
oil drain in the sump
oil lines/in and outlet
rise of rate fuel reg, depending on what you go for you can use just that you will need a 12:1 rising rate. or if you are going to use a aftermarket ecu, you need a 1:1 boost referance.
aftermarket ecu.. wolf..motec...microtec....autronic etc..
injectors
fuel pump

and ther eallways is other things you come up with.

PS you could save yourself lots of time and money if you bought my car!!!hehe.

dansedgli · 23-11-2006, 03:48 PM

Nah man its not worth it. You have a VL turbo in the shed. Do that up instead!!

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 03:50 PM

and if i bought your car i couldnt say "i built it"
besides this car was bought new by my grandad and my nan give it to me when he died. its imacc in and out.
3.9mpfi, t5 s-pack

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 03:50 PM

sorry i meant a turbo OFF a vl....lol

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 03:51 PM

im not sure if it will suit the ea but a mate give it to me for $200 when he got a bigger one for his car....it is only a few months old.

dansedgli · 23-11-2006, 03:52 PM

Okay well for your turbo conversion you have a turbo and thats it according to your list.

Refer to ebmanuals list for the other stuff you need. Definately buy his car as its already done. You will need to pull all the stuff off for a RWC so you get to put it all back on a again so technically you can say that you built it.

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 03:58 PM

yeah but as i also said i have just started and in my eyes for a turbo conv the first place to start is a turbo? and i also said that i wanted to start under my car with all new suspension and bushings why put a turbo on if it handles like a boat?

poomba · 23-11-2006, 04:25 PM

Hey mate, i have built a turbo car (twin turbo ea infact!), and there are sooo many variables. in my humble opinion, what you need to do is juggle two things...

1. what you want
2. what you can afford
remember that power = money, and the question is, how fast do you want to go.

i would recommend making the thing turn and stop first. it sounds like you are on your way, and you hit the nail on the head:

Quote:

i wanted to start under my car with all new suspension and bushings why put a turbo on if it handles like a boat?

so fix that first... you can spend $1000 under there, and it will ride pretty sweet

next thing you need to do is make sure you have a motor that can handle what you want to do with it. you need to decide how much boost you want to run, and if your motor and ecu can take it... (keep in mind that falcon ecu's are not very tunable at all)

finally now you are aware of what you want to do, you need to have everything ready before you want to start bolting bits to it (assuming your motor is ready).

what you need is greatly dependant on what you want (psi). for example, for mild power and very low psi, a modified log manifold will do (just), it is cheap, but be warned, if you get the bug and want to go higher, the log manifold is useless. so buy a tuned length. if you have a standard vl turbo, your boost will be limited. so you will need to consider that.

the further you want to go and the more RELIABLE you want your car, the more you will need...
low boost can get away with a bit... but keep in mind if you do it on the cheap things will be unreliable and you won't get what you paid for. everything seems to compliment the next. the more you spend, the better...

ultimatley, do you research and figure out what you really want. IMO 7K is a good figure for a semi descent turbo setup... everyones opinion will differ here.

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 04:30 PM

thanks for the reply poomba. i do understand all these things and i intend on building a good performer that is reliable for a resonable price i dont want anyone to think i want it done cheap what i meant is that i dont want spend a ridiculous amont of money achieving this.

BLKPHN · 23-11-2006, 04:37 PM

the list just keeps going on, brakes, engineers, steering, suspension, ADR, $$$$

BLKPHN · 23-11-2006, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansedgli

Okay well for your turbo conversion you have a turbo and thats it according to your list.

Refer to ebmanuals list for the other stuff you need. Definately buy his car as its already done. You will need to pull all the stuff off for a RWC so you get to put it all back on a again so technically you can say that you built it.

yeah yeah do what he said!! lol buy my car.

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 04:50 PM

lol.......nope

Bill_R · 23-11-2006, 04:54 PM

not a waste of time if you are prepared to do it and get enjoyment out of doing it, can afford the cash and are prepared for possible down-time. Start small like you mention with bushes etc and build up from there. Remember you need to get it registered afterwrds so take that into consideration.

oneredED · 23-11-2006, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Hi all,
i have been planning a turbo conversion for my ea for a few months now and i am a little worried. Im only fairly new to the FF's and by what i have been reading you cant do a turbo conversion unless your loaded? Is there anyone out there that has done one for a resonable price?

I have spent a total of $350 so far, and all I have yet to buy is the dump-pipe and a couple more silicon joiners. Have already: All oil lines + fittings, cooler, 3" piping, T04e turbo, manifold, twin B2's, big TB mixer etc. You've got to shop smart, and find friends in the industry who can help you out. If you're prepared to work hard, then I reckon you can save alot of $$$.

EDIT: I am still somewhat of a "gunna" since it is not yet running, but I am at least halfway through fitting it all. Should only take another 2 weeks hopefully.

Racecraft · 23-11-2006, 07:26 PM

the turbo off a VL would be too small anyways wouldn't it?

ROOSTA · 23-11-2006, 09:57 PM

Hey mate.. Check out this thread.. alot of guys doing turbo conversions found it very handy..

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...=1#post1097325

Also the Power adders section can be quite useful..

http://www.fordforums.com.au/forumdisplay.php?f=114

Also as everyone else has said.. if ya shop smart you should be sweet.. So far i have spent less than $500 and i have everything short of cooler and dump piping and oil lines..

Cheers,
Nik

EAdriver · 23-11-2006, 10:05 PM

thanks heaps mate....

Tiga_EL · 23-11-2006, 10:09 PM

No one sells complete second hand kits these days :(

T_Terror · 23-11-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oneredED

I have spent a total of $350 so far, and all I have yet to buy is the dump-pipe and a couple more silicon joiners. Have already: All oil lines + fittings, cooler, 3" piping, T04e turbo, manifold, twin B2's, big TB mixer etc. You've got to shop smart, and find friends in the industry who can help you out. If you're prepared to work hard, then I reckon you can save alot of $$$.

EDIT: I am still somewhat of a "gunna" since it is not yet running, but I am at least halfway through fitting it all. Should only take another 2 weeks hopefully.

Shutup jared you have nothing.

Dont listen to him. I donated him the turbo, manifold, wastegate, 2 intercoolers (yes 2!!!), AND a minispool!
The LPG stuff was given to you too
All hes added is a t3 to t4 flange adapter.
And 90% of the cost of that $350 is the intercooler piping kit that you bought off another member.
You will have to drive around with my name emblazoned across your whole car as a promotional tool for me and my generosity