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19-09-2006 12:24 PM

LS Focus fault register
 
A mod could make this a sticky if its felt its needed

I thought I may start this thread for people to list what problems they've had with their LS Focus and what was done to fix it, to serve 2 purposes - troubleshooting for current LS Focus owners and to inform potential buyers some problems this car may have.

If we could use the template to keep it more "uniformed"

Month/year build:
Spec Level:
KMs at time of fault:
Symtoms:
Fault:
Fixed? By:
Comments:

I'll start off

Month/year build: Nov 05
Spec Level: LX
KMs at time of fault: 35,000km
Symtoms: At 1/4 throttle car would have momentary loss of power for about 2 seconds every 10 seconds. Red warning light and messages "Speed limited mode" and "Engine Systems Fault"
Fault: Electronic Throttle Body
Fixed? By: Replaced by Ford Warranty - Sameday
Comments: Started about 4 weeks ago, happened once that week. Only started getting bad last week where it came on 5 times during a trip. After switching the engine off then on again it resets the message. Although this is not nessecary (you can drive with the red light on)


mitch_lx 19-09-2006 02:06 PM

Stuff me, you already have 35 thousand kms on you're car?

My Fiesta is just shy of being two years old and it has just clicked to 27 thousand.

19-09-2006 02:10 PM

Its almost at 36,500 from driving over the weekend. Lets just say I've named every tree along Heathcote Rd.

Another fault:

Month/year build: Nov 05
Spec Level: LX
KMs at time of fault: 26,000km
Symtoms: Clutch pedal does not come out the final 3cm of travel, remnants of a spring in drivers footwell
Fault: Broken Clutch pedal spring
Fixed? By: Dealer apparently needed to order it in, havent been called in yet (3-4 months back)
Comments: The clutch actaully feels better. Although it is softer than with the spring, you can actually feel the friction point. I may not worry about replacing it. (dealer said its fine to drive)

20-09-2006 11:46 AM

So no one else has had a warranty claim on their car?

mitch_lx 20-09-2006 11:55 AM

I think most of the problems will be in regards to fit and finish of the car, or lack thereof.

Probably another issue will be this fueling problem on hills, which i dont think anyone has really found a fix to just yet.

FRA 20-09-2006 12:06 PM

There is no warranty from what I have seen.

More revs 20-09-2006 02:08 PM

Are those tube clamps on the inlet pipes 'use once' ?

20-09-2006 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by More revs
Are those tube clamps on the inlet pipes 'use once' ?

Nope although a bit of strength is needed to get them to join up if you take them off and dont have the right tools.

Id suggest just replacing them with 3" hose screw-clamps like how Ive done

karl74 21-09-2006 12:19 AM

I think this is a great thread BlackLS. Hopefully it may help with some issues i've been having.

Month/year build: Dec 05
Spec Level: LS Zetec
KMs at time of fault: various
Symtoms: Occasionally will not start until 3rd or 4th try and then will be quite a rough start.
Fault: I wish i knew.
Fixed? No.
By:
Comments: Also had fuel pump and fuel sender guage replaced.
Also, occasionally air con will come on when starting car even though it had not been used previously.

More revs 21-09-2006 11:31 AM

I'm tempted to believe the Focus has fuel pickup issues with all these related posts. Also, mine has always made a wird grinding noise from the fuel pump at startup. I rolled it into the garage the other day where I could listen carefully and found out there is nothing wrong with the pump mechanically, in my case the noise is caused by air bubbles in the line - which make a grinding 'sound' when they blast along the line and back through the return.

Once the pump has been on a few seconds and the bubbles have gone through the regulator and back to the tank the noise stops. I think it sucks air back through the return / regulator like as if there is no one-way check valve fitted. This hypothesis is compatible with why I have trouble starting when parked on a steep slop particularly nose up. I just turn the key but not start a few times untill the fuel rails are charged and then no probs.

Anyway I'm not bothered by it anymore.

21-09-2006 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl74
I think this is a great thread BlackLS. Hopefully it may help with some issues i've been having.

Month/year build: Dec 05
Spec Level: LS Zetec
KMs at time of fault: various
Symtoms: Occasionally will not start until 3rd or 4th try and then will be quite a rough start.
Fault: I wish i knew.
Fixed? No.
By:
Comments: Also had fuel pump and fuel sender guage replaced.
Also, occasionally air con will come on when starting car even though it had not been used previously.

Re air con - if you move the switch over to demister, then turn the car on, the air con it'll turn on by itself. This is what you could be doing.

21-09-2006 12:15 PM

With those who got their pump replaced, and had a good look at it, does the fuel pump/tank have a return line?!

Zetec20 21-09-2006 01:24 PM

Month/year build: Sep 05
Spec Level: Zetec
KMs at time of fault: Various
Symtoms: see below
Fault: Broken Clutch pedal spring at roughly... 22,000k's same as blackls, part of face plate of clutch snapping off at 11,000k's, wires between battery, alternator, and starter motor fried at roughly 17,000k's all fixed under warranty same days
Comments: having a brother that works for ford is awesome, he's now service advisor which makes it even better

mitch_lx 21-09-2006 01:48 PM

Month/year of build:Sept 05
Spec Level: zetec20
Kms at time of Fault: Various
Symptoms: looks like a nob
Fault: Driver can be quite a nob at times
Fix: Not as yet

Zetec20 21-09-2006 02:17 PM

Month/year of build:Sept 05
Spec Level: mitch_lx
Kms at time of Fault: Constantly
Symptoms: constant stabs at zetec20
Fault: inferiority complex due to driving a 'little' car and being jealous of bigger and better things, myself included :P
Fix: common sense

mitch_lx 21-09-2006 02:21 PM

Month/year of build: Sept 05
Spec Level: Zetec20
Kms at time of fault: happening right now
Symptoms: Wheel size choice
Fault: Overcompensating with wheel size choice in order to take away attention from his small cockpit size.
Fix: www.doodle-enlargers.com

Zetec20 21-09-2006 02:25 PM

haha, not overcompensation, accessorising!

mitch_lx 21-09-2006 02:30 PM

:p :p :p

Pieoter 21-09-2006 03:28 PM

Take it easy girls
Issac is compensating
Mitch is a little whinging

mitch_lx 21-09-2006 07:08 PM

Pie is a little understeery :P

Pieoter 21-09-2006 09:45 PM

When you can control a car with half a control arm missing you can talk. Until then you can't so go home

Dshibi 22-09-2006 12:08 AM

Month/year build: It's brand new, 06 build.
Spec Level: LX
KMs at time of fault: No idea, but only a few thousand.
Symtoms: Interior is wet.
Fault: Passenger side rear quarter window seal faulty/dodgey
Fixed? By: Sinclair Ford, except they didn't tint the damned window.
Comments: Well, poor quality control for starters, it wasn't until the torrential downpours the other week we found the fault. Then, to fix the window and not tint it is a bit stupid. But at least it's fixed. Mum was too scared to drive the car while it was faulty though.

mitch_lx 22-09-2006 07:46 AM

I am home pie.

More revs 22-09-2006 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackLS
With those who got their pump replaced, and had a good look at it, does the fuel pump/tank have a return line?!


Haven't had a close look yet, only listened for fuel pump noises and fuel running through pipes.

Doesn't really change things if it's returnless as all this means is all the other bits like pump, regulator, pickup and returns are internal to the tank. If there's air in the system it still makes the same noises.

murph 24-09-2006 12:51 AM

Hmm here's my list

Month/year build: July 05
Spec Level: Zetec
KMs at time of fault: 32
Symptoms: Poor finish on paint.
Fault: Run in paint above drivers door, hair in paint on front guard, star in paint on rear bar. Black out in front spoiler not masked off correctly.
Fixed? By: Eventually took over a year and two goes back to the panel shop to get right.
Comments: Still not happy, black out not done due to special paint needing to be ordered. Overall paint very poor....

Month/year build: July 05
Spec Level: Zetec
KMs at time of fault: 1500
Symptoms: Grease in the engine bay
Fault: Split in the rubber boot on the drivers side CV joint.
Fixed? By: Drive shaft replaced.
Comments: Bugger, I knew I brought one too early....

Month/year build: July 05
Spec Level: Zetec
KMs at time of fault: 1500, 8300, 11000
Symptoms: Starting problem, takes a couple of goes to start.
Fault: Reset the computer
Fixed? By: Yes after the third time, seems to be fine now
Comments: Couldn't believe it when the dealer said to me "Well mate you work in IT, you have to reboot computers all the time, it's the same with these cars"..... Hmm since when did Microsoft write code for ECU's !!!

Month/year build: July 05
Spec Level: Zetec
KMs at time of fault: 13200
Symptoms: Water in boot
Fault: Boot not adjusted correctly
Fixed? By: Well so far....
Comments: We will see next time it rains

Had various other problems with the car trim bits not right, panels not lined up, dealer putting a dent in the bonnet because they don't know how to close it (got fixed). Also think the A/C compressor is noisy but the dealer has ok'd it, we will see.

I love to drive this car it's a lot of fun, good practical car can pack the family in it which is good, cheap to run even when driving it hard. Get a lot of comments about it but won't recommend one to anybody, just too many build quality problems which is unfortunate as I'm sure I've put off a few buyers.

Stugots 24-09-2006 04:50 AM

Damn it Murph! I wish you made that post 24 hours earlier! :lol:

24-09-2006 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murph
*snip*

Man you got a lemon. In the US you would have been given a new car by law.

The ECU thingy, sounds more like the symtoms of the fuel pickup problem.

mauro 01-10-2006 01:17 AM

04 focus
 
noisy motor when starting in morning it rattles dealer cant find fault
its a 1.8 few minutes at idle noise goes away does any body know

mauro 01-10-2006 01:21 AM

04 focus
 
noisy motor when starting in morning it rattles dealer cant find fault
its a 1.8 few minutes at idle noise goes away does any body know also had
fuel gauge faulty ford changed 3 senders in tank know good they changed
instrument cluster all ok

01-10-2006 11:19 AM

Thats a LR focus mate ;)

20focus05 02-10-2006 12:38 AM

I've only CL but have had a few probs, O2 sensor, bad starting, water leaks in rear 1/4 window, bad paint work and now rust. our dealer loves us lol

paul&amanda 03-10-2006 08:14 PM

distorted rear windscreen
 
the rear windscreen on my 06 lx sedan was badly distorted ford replaced it under warranty but the new one was just as bad after checking some other cars on the lot it seems most of them have the same problem they are trying to find a replacement one of acceptable quality i would advise all focus owners to check thier window glass for distortion and go back to thier dealer and ask for it to be replaced if needed.

73MTU 04-10-2006 08:39 PM

Month/year build:nov 05 with 20000k's

Spec Level: dunno, bottom of teh range

KMs at time of fault:had problems since within the first week of ownig the thing

Symtoms:car not starting, door locks cycling randomly, marks on paint job

Fault:dunno, faulty front left selonoid, dodgey paint job

Fixed? By: not fixed yet, fixed under warranty, and fixed under warranty

Comments: the starting problem didnt happen for a while now but still ****ed off with the service i got at the time of that problem, the locks got fixed after goin to 3 different ford yards was happy with Torque Ford in Redcliffe who fixed the locks. and teh rear bar got painted pretty much straight away of me informing them. that all i think, i was sure there was more, will post when i remember.

karl74 05-10-2006 11:04 AM

I would urge anyone with a problem that hasn't been fixed email Ford Australia. Maybe if they start seeing a consistency in the type of problems posted they might do something about it. Here is the link to Ford's Customer Service where you can email them with your problem(s)

https://www.ford.com.au/contactus/in...fordcrc.com.au

Stugots 05-10-2006 11:21 AM

The seat adjustment handle cover comes off really easily

More revs 05-10-2006 01:59 PM

Mine had developed a problem attracting bad drivers and bad parkers.

I think it had a d1ckhead magnet installed somewhere but I can't find it.

amlohac 05-10-2006 04:42 PM

E-mail is great, phone is even better

05-10-2006 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by More revs
Mine had developed a problem attracting bad drivers and bad parkers.

I think it had a d1ckhead magnet installed somewhere but I can't find it.

When I park and find a parking space, I profile the driver by the car they drive and its condition. For example, Thursday night, Miranda Westfield carpark, 84 Ford Laser with red Ps one side, Toyota Prado with tissues on the dash the other. The Laser has Ford seat covers on it, so I'm guessing the driver loves Fords, going by how young they are, they probably are working in the shops and know how valuable money is. I could park 20cm from them and wouldn't get a scratch.

The Prado is probably mums taxi dragging 6 deliquent kids around the shops. Coming back to the car, they pull their trolly to the back of the 4wd scratching the surrounding cars, unlocks the door for the kids, kids swinging the doors into surrounding car. Leaving the carpark she can;t manover the 4wd well but CBF doing a 3pt turn to get out cleanly and scrapes the car surrounding it. They also cbf about their car because the husband paid for the 4wd.

I know this is a gross generalisation, but most of the time you can just "tell" Whether its safe or not. Any car that looks like it carries kids is a definate no-no to park next to.

pertuan 05-10-2006 07:13 PM

I agree with you totally BlackLS. Its for that reason that I park next to new-ish sparkling BMWs, Mercs and other Euro expensive cars.

I also try to find a spot where there is a wall or pillar on the passenger side if I reverse in. That way, I can put the car within 5 cm of the pillar and leave HEAPS of room on the other side for the other car to open their doors and such.

Stugots 09-10-2006 02:41 PM

I gave the car a good wash on Saturday and was the first opportunity I had to do a very close scan of the car. I discovered the Headlight lenses, particularly the right has some frost-like stain around the blinker. Looks like moisture or something. I also found a tiny paint chip in the rear right door frame which is already rusty, then on the rear hatch, the plastic fitting above the licence plate that houses the latch/lights has a small scratch and a scuff (looks like someone opened the hatch onto something without enough height clearance). What's the best way to go about this? call the dealer or drive in there and put them on the spot?

If the lights need replaceing, I'll enquire about the Zetec lights and cash adjustment. I hope this wont turn into a nightmare.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...misc/frame.jpg

They'll definitely deny the paint chip, I should have checked all the door frames thoroughly when I collected it. Hopefully I can get some touch up paint.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...misc/light.jpg

09-10-2006 04:30 PM

If the chip is rusted then that would indicate its been there for a while. Go back to the dealer NOW.

The headlight, I'd bet that the headlight hasn't been sealed properly at the back and that is dried condensation or even dried sea salt from the trip over the Indian Ocean.

There is only a 5000km warranty on fit and finish...

Stugots 09-10-2006 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackLS
If the chip is rusted then that would indicate its been there for a while. Go back to the dealer NOW.

The headlight, I'd bet that the headlight hasn't been sealed properly at the back and that is dried condensation or even dried sea salt from the trip over the Indian Ocean.

There is only a 5000km warranty on fit and finish...

Cheers BlackLS, and I didn't know about the fit & finish limit.

20focus05 11-10-2006 11:57 AM

Bloody clutch return spring broke, oh ie oh ie its off to ford we go.

Oh forgot to mention that I have had the B pillar(rear door)trim replaced 3 times, keep warping and coming adrift.

zetecboy 16-10-2006 12:27 AM

Month/year build:June 2005
Spec Level: Zetec
KMs at time of fault: 28,000
Symtoms: Knocking/popping noise under acceleration in reverse
Fault:Rear engine mount (took them 7 hours to find it!!)
Fixed? By: Under warranty
Comments: -

Month/year build:June 2005
Spec Level: Zetec
KMs at time of fault: 28,000
Symtoms:Sever wobble under acceleration between 60-75kmh
Fault: "out of round" CV shaft
Fixed? By: Not yet - parts ordered
Comments: When they replaced the rear engine mount this problem was apparent, I specificly asked Sinclair Ford (Penrith) to road test the car between 60-75kmh when they did the replaced the engine mount. I picked the car up only to find the wobble was still there. Either they didn't road test the car at the speed I said it happens or whoever did road test it somehow thought a wobble that vibrates the whole front end of the car is normal??? :saywhat:

MikGan 19-10-2006 02:57 PM

Month/year build:Nov 2005
Spec Level: LX
KMs at time of fault: 32,000
Symtoms: Pinging motor, happens all the time under firm acceleration no matter what fuel
Fault:Had the ecu flashed 3 times now still not fixed
Fixed? no
Comments: Very frusturating but been told to wait for new software, like the other 3 times nows.... last new car I'll ever buy for the wife me thinks.

raymon81 25-10-2006 03:25 PM

Anybody noticed a difference in the beeping sound when you havnt got your seatbelt on? Mine is definatly sounding abit different to when i first got the car. It sounds as if it is sick, i cant really describe it but just thought id ask if its happened to anybody else.

25-10-2006 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymon81
Anybody noticed a difference in the beeping sound when you havnt got your seatbelt on? Mine is definatly sounding abit different to when i first got the car. It sounds as if it is sick, i cant really describe it but just thought id ask if its happened to anybody else.

Like its distorting yeah? A lot of it comes from the vibration with plastics in the guage cluster. Mine disappeared when I did the LEDs

Conquest_Tsi 25-10-2006 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackLS
Like its distorting yeah? A lot of it comes from the vibration with plastics in the guage cluster. Mine disappeared when I did the LEDs


Anyone know of an easy way of disabling this irratating alert?

25-10-2006 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conquest_Tsi
Anyone know of an easy way of disabling this irratating alert?

There is a method that works on the Euro Focuses which includes the XR5. Doesn't work on ours, the best we could probably do is ground the wire for the seatbelt alert.

raymon81 25-10-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackLS
Like its distorting yeah? A lot of it comes from the vibration with plastics in the guage cluster. Mine disappeared when I did the LEDs

Yep your spot on mate. When i take my car in for the 15,000 service ill get Ford to fix it. Thanx for that.


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