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Old 07-01-2008, 09:12 PM   #1
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Default Removing the gas from Aircon, the legal way

Just a question, Wondering if I can buy a kit or gas transfer thingy me bob... as I don't think the EPA would like me spreading it in the atmosphere .. although "what they don't know, can't hurt them" haha

need to remove all the air con gas, so i can remove the whole unit.

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Old 07-01-2008, 09:21 PM   #2
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Just a question, Wondering if I can buy a kit or gas transfer thingy me bob... as I don't think the EPA would like me spreading it in the atmosphere .. although "what they don't know, can't hurt them" haha

need to remove all the air con gas, so i can remove the whole unit.
The simple answer is NO. To evacuate the system you need to be a registered and qualified person. There are all sorts of protocols that need to be followed to legally decant the gas from your system. The chances of you being caught are small, although the fines if caught are rather hefty.

Not that I would condone such action, but in the interests of your safety, should you choose to decant to atmosphere, wear gloves and face protection. Frostbite, or freezeburn, are a real possibility when playing with this stuff. If you are determined to do it, I would recommend cracking a union on a pipe, rather than trying to play with the schrader valve. Let it seep out slowly rather than in a rush. Make sure the area is very well ventilated, the gas is heavy and will displace oxygen in a confined space.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:08 PM   #3
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Just go to an aircon joint and get them to properly evacuate the system, should not cost too much as they are then keeping the gas to filter and recycle.
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cant move car, half the engine is out, no interior, etc. etc. i just unbolted the compressor lines and nothing came out.. thankfully lol.
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Just hacksaw the line and let it out. There is probably stuff all left in it anyway.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:27 PM   #6
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i've always just pushed the pin inside the valve and let her rip, with all due respect to the EPA people whats next, plumbing up our butts next time we want to fart?
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i've always just pushed the pin inside the valve and let her rip, with all due respect to the EPA people whats next, plumbing up our butts next time we want to fart?
Agreed.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:39 PM   #9
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lol if the methane from your backside is proven to have the same nasties R12 does I'll personally ask the EPA to plug you
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cant move car, half the engine is out, no interior, etc. etc. i just unbolted the compressor lines and nothing came out.. thankfully lol.
nice one
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:58 PM   #11
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lol if the methane from your backside is proven to have the same nasties R12 does I'll personally ask the EPA to plug you
R12 is "PRIUS" compared to some exhaust emissions i have seen.
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indeed. Hope your all running cat converters!
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There's a new thread right there.
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undo the bolt on the condenser slowly .......and you will hear a shhhhhhhh. then undo it more and more till the shhhhhh goes. there you go no more gas. guys just imagie that your car was just in a small head on collision and you condenser had a burst ......thats sort the same thing hey... the gas goes into the atmosphere. P.S. i dont see insurance companies buying carbon credit to counter the damage those cars cause to the atmosphere. happy ozone
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Do what I did..
Drive home late at night and when a fox runs across the road in the rain...

PResto no gas
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:11 AM   #16
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indeed. Hope your all running cat converters!
hell no... my car was built for leaded!!! HAHAHAHA!!!! cop that!!!
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undo the bolt on the condenser slowly .......and you will hear a shhhhhhhh. then undo it more and more till the shhhhhh goes. there you go no more gas. guys just imagie that your car was just in a small head on collision and you condenser had a burst ......thats sort the same thing hey... the gas goes into the atmosphere. P.S. i dont see insurance companies buying carbon credit to counter the damage those cars cause to the atmosphere. happy ozone
Just out of curiosity, why should insurance companies buy the carbon credits? They insure you against accidents, they dont encourage them. Surely the associated hypothetical carbon credits are the responsibility of drivers or manufacturers.


As for the other, sure an accident releases the gas, its kind of unavoidable. If you broke a side window would you recommend dumping broken glass in the gutter outside your home? That hits the road in an accident too.
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