A Ricers Christmas - Page 2

Heeno · 16-08-2005, 12:02 PM

mitchey,

4cyl = no torque if it does it's hopeless, no power unless it has forced induction, hopeless up hills unless foot was put down miles before the hill and all round are just generally sh!tty! sorry mate but thats the truth, don't get me wrong there perfect for holding up traffic and taking years to get to the speed limit and they waste no fuel.
pro's and con's with everything, but regarding performance, 4cyl got no pro's to em.

BuuBox · 16-08-2005, 01:00 PM

You're also missing the point that even your 2.2 litre TX5 has more torque down lower than a Honda VTEC engine.

Wouldn't quite go that far, Heeno...

gozza · 16-08-2005, 01:45 PM

a stock 1.8 crx the same year as an eb would wipe the floor
mid 15's in a manual

MITCHAY · 16-08-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

a stock 1.8 crx the same year as an eb would wipe the floor
mid 15's in a manual

I like CRXs but not riced ones.

2000 Type R Integra. 0-60mph in 6.2secs 1/4mile 14.7secs. All out of a VTEC 1.8l (108hp/lt).

Jeez if im correct that would beat any stock falcon or commodore up to XR6T.

I dunno correct me if im wrong as im not too sure on stock times for commodores or falcons.

gozza · 16-08-2005, 02:08 PM

may cop flack for this i love my fords.. but i also have a love for hondas...my 1st car was an 84 civic 5 spd
smoothest gearbox and i got the er past 100k's in second might i add i also blew the engine up via a conrod thru the block haha..
an r type with a intercooled turbo would be very nice

MITCHAY · 16-08-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

may cop flack for this i love my fords.. but i also have a love for hondas...my 1st car was an 84 civic 5 spd
smoothest gearbox and i got the er past 100k's in second might i add i also blew the engine up via a conrod thru the block haha..
an r type with a intercooled turbo would be very nice

Yeah exactly i have aprreciation for different types of cars. It just seems a lot of people bag the VTEC when its a great engine system. Im lookn at a Integra Type R for my next car. Essentially a race prepared production car=give me.

Not too mention the performance figures i quoted before also come accompanied by great fuel economy figures 7lt/100kms for HW and 9lt/100 for city.

Axle-F · 16-08-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Young 'un

Hahahahahaha!

Settle down Mitchay! Ask Uncle John if you can have some of his Valium and take a nice nap...

Hey young 'un is that your car i've seen parked outside the B&D factory at Revesby?

Sourbastard · 16-08-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Yeah exactly i have aprreciation for different types of cars. It just seems a lot of people bag the VTEC when its a great engine system. Im lookn at a Integra Type R for my next car. Essentially a race prepared production car=give me.

Not too mention the performance figures i quoted before also come accompanied by great fuel economy figures 7lt/100kms for HW and 9lt/100 for city.

You and the Vtec got bagged because you dont have a sense of humour, and chose to defend the 4 cylinder victim of a parody. Surely you have something better to do, like push your car through a car wash? Or push your car down to the nearest McDonalds? Or maybe load all your friends into the car, and push them around Canberra's points of interest.

4.9 EF Futura · 16-08-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Yeah exactly i have aprreciation for different types of cars. It just seems a lot of people bag the VTEC when its a great engine system.

*meh* variable valve timing not exactly unique these days. Remember not everyone wants to redline their engine to generate power. I quite enjoy having 200 odd kw at 3500rpm. Driveability is not something you can assess by kw listings on a fact sheet.

Friend took me for a burn in last year's Integra type r. Quite nice, not terribly comfortable but you dont really expect it to be. Performance wasnt breath taking in a straight line (it gives the impression of speed by revving to 9000rpm) but stuck to the corners well. Very very nice piece of machninery but I certainly wouldnt call it a race prepped production car.

Lol, love the poem at the start of the thread.

Walkinshaw · 16-08-2005, 05:57 PM

*we Are At Moron Alert 5, Repeat Moron Alert 5*

mcflux · 17-08-2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sourbastard

Or maybe load all your friends into the car, and push them around Canberra's points of interest.

There might not be too many points of interest for the car to be pushed to, but I'm sure a lot of pulling will occur along the way...

Steffo · 17-08-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I like CRXs but not riced ones.

2000 Type R Integra. 0-60mph in 6.2secs 1/4mile 14.7secs. All out of a VTEC 1.8l (108hp/lt).

Jeez if im correct that would beat any stock falcon or commodore up to XR6T.

I dunno correct me if im wrong as im not too sure on stock times for commodores or falcons.

I guess I'll reply to this in about as serious tone you're using. Plenty of pre-BA Falcons that'll mop the floor with an ITR. And since we're sticking strictly to magazine racing... AUIII XR8, AUIII T-Series, AUII XR8, AUII T-Series, AU T-Series, XY GT-HO PIII, XW GT-HO PII, XW GT-HO PI.....

Commodore's? Plenty of pre VY-VZ's will beat it... VXII SS, VXII HSV-Anything, VX SS, VX HSV-Anything, VTII SS, VTII HSV-Anything except XU6, VT HSV-Anything, VS HSV-Anything, VR HSV GTS, VP HSV GTS, VN SS Group A, VK SS Group A HDT....

Oh, and the 2000 ITR's had 105hp/litre, not 108. 141kW = 189hp. 189/1.8 = 105. The later ones were 147kW (197hp), but they were 2.0litres, so that's 98.5hp/litre.

Oh, and on the road, in the real world, in-gear, overtaking etc etc... your Integ will get raped by an EF GLi and VS Executive...

Enjoy! :thebirds:

cogdoc · 17-08-2005, 09:45 AM

C'mon guys he is entitled to his point of view. He's copped enough flogging.

Although it does seem a little silly to get onto a FORD forum and start waving the VTEC flag. Surely there are other more suitable forums to frequent for that sort of discussion?

I will say though that the TX5's crash into trees very very well. Forgiven me yet pop?

gozza · 17-08-2005, 10:48 AM

yeah well even tho i love brunettes i'm not gonna knock back a root from a hot blonde

gozza · 17-08-2005, 11:11 AM

theres this dude that cruises around my area in a lancer with big chromes body kit all show pony and no go pony..monster tacho with the needle sitting under 0(not working)...quite pathetic..their not worth the fuel and strain of eating them

MITCHAY · 17-08-2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

I guess I'll reply to this in about as serious tone you're using. Plenty of pre-BA Falcons that'll mop the floor with an ITR. And since we're sticking strictly to magazine racing... AUIII XR8, AUIII T-Series, AUII XR8, AUII T-Series, AU T-Series, XY GT-HO PIII, XW GT-HO PII, XW GT-HO PI.....

Commodore's? Plenty of pre VY-VZ's will beat it... VXII SS, VXII HSV-Anything, VX SS, VX HSV-Anything, VTII SS, VTII HSV-Anything except XU6, VT HSV-Anything, VS HSV-Anything, VR HSV GTS, VP HSV GTS, VN SS Group A, VK SS Group A HDT....

Oh, and the 2000 ITR's had 105hp/litre, not 108. 141kW = 189hp. 189/1.8 = 105. The later ones were 147kW (197hp), but they were 2.0litres, so that's 98.5hp/litre.

Oh, and on the road, in the real world, in-gear, overtaking etc etc... your Integ will get raped by an EF GLi and VS Executive...

Enjoy! :thebirds:

Dude i was talking 6 cylinders. Do you really think id be stupid to think id rape a V8. Bloody hell.

And i wasnt paying out on any commodore or falcon at all. Ive got a Ford (albeit not a great one in the big scheme of things) ffs so why the hell would i.

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C'mon guys he is entitled to his point of view. He's copped enough flogging.

Meh getting bagged out on the net doesnt mean anything to me as i dont have to see all these people everyday.

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Although it does seem a little silly to get onto a FORD forum and start waving the VTEC flag. Surely there are other more suitable forums to frequent for that sort of discussion?

Reds already kicked my **** for it and ive accepted the fact that basically no one is accepting of anyone elses interests. If i had of come on and said VTEC kick the s**t out of muscle all day everyday and Ford is s**t then fair game but i have never insisted this was the case.

I took the joke too seriously which i thought was funny but just pointed out something about the VTEC.

Now there is no need to drag this thread on anymore about it.

And as for lancers? Well a mirage has more chance of winning and i still kick their ****. Or was that 2 mirages?

smoo · 17-08-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Yeah exactly i have aprreciation for different types of cars. It just seems a lot of people bag the VTEC when its a great engine system. Im lookn at a Integra Type R for my next car. Essentially a race prepared production car=give me.

Not too mention the performance figures i quoted before also come accompanied by great fuel economy figures 7lt/100kms for HW and 9lt/100 for city.

No need for vtec for nearly all driving situations when most 6 and 8s out there deliver SMOOTH and CONSISTENT power with twice as much torque at half the engine speed.
And the Integra Type R, one of Hondas sportiest models, should bloody well beat a taxi down the strip.

Awesome poem, but just needs the fly-by part.