BF Specs and Combined Threads - Page 15

XplosiveR6 · 21-08-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

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That would make sense to me.

Fuels going up and the market is looking for something more thrifty. It wouldn't be the first time this was a winning strategy, Holden did it when it killed the Kingswood and introduced the Commodore during the late 70's/80's fuel crisis. History has told us that Ford's response of dumping the V8 wasn't the most considered response that still has consequences to this day.

Besides, Ford now has the Territory for those that still want/need a larger family car.

yea and the medium size commodore almost sent holden bankrupt yea real winning strategy. people dont want small cars, people want economic cars - big difference

**Raptor** · 22-08-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by paxtonandrew

Will that mean the Barra 182 Users will also be able to get the upgrade to 190, or are we going to have to stick with what we have? There is nothing wrong with 182, however My Boat still uses the most of the 182 and 380 NM that I have, and there are times when I feel that more power would be nice.

-Andrew

I'm resonably convinced that these power and torque moves are mainly from program changes. Whether Ford will want to pass these on to earlier cars is however is unlikely.

There's always the aftermarket though - but I'm sure they don't have the resources to evaluate cam phasing, emmissions, longevity etc to the extent Ford does.

Did all the Territory owners just discover this thread?

SpoolMan · 22-08-2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

A thought. Is it called BF coz it will be the last Big Falcon (?)and we can expect something radically smalelr and different in '08?

Project Orion, but we best get through the BF 1st.

johnydep · 22-08-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by paxtonandrew

Will that mean the Barra 182 Users will also be able to get the upgrade to 190, or are we going to have to stick with what we have? There is nothing wrong with 182, however My Boat still uses the most of the 182 and 380 NM that I have, and there are times when I feel that more power would be nice.

-Andrew

The 190 also has a higher compression ratio, two knock sensors and I'm guessing that some work was done to the combustion chamber to allow for the higher comp;
http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/porta...opDefault.aspx

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a higher compression ratio that has been pushed from 9.7:1 to 10.3:1 dual knock sensors

Paxton · 22-08-2005, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

Did all the Territory owners just discover this thread?

Heh, no. I have been posting on and off in this thread, mainly due to the need of a new car for the Wife. BF Fairmont Ghia Here I come.

-Andrew

Blue Oval Mopar Man · 22-08-2005, 10:53 AM

B actually goes with lots of letters, BF is good !Goodrich is a good tyre , BG , How cool , more than one , A great australian band ! BH , as long as they dont release an extra mild version. BI , I love Bi chicks ! BJ , WHO doesnt like a BJ ??? Brad Jones is a funny dude ! hmmmmm . BK , Im sure there is something good about BK,and a BL for that matter ! BM , as long as there is no 3rd letter well be ok . dont like the next 2 ! yeah ok , I was wrong you were right , there aint that many letters that go with B hahahahahaha! :the_finge

Paxton · 22-08-2005, 10:57 AM

So After BF what do we get? BL?

-Andrew

johnydep · 22-08-2005, 11:05 AM

What's everyones take on this;

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Power is up from 182 kW to 190 kW (picking up the name Barra 190 in the process). This is ostensibly the same as the maximum output of the most potent of Holden's new 3.6-litre V6s, the Alloytec 190. But Ford and Holden use different international standards to measure engine output. Ford's results in bigger figures by a few per cent.

I hate when reviewers casually throw in something like that with no explanation.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/news/i...?oneclick=true

paul7v7 · 22-08-2005, 11:38 AM

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What's everyones take on this;

I hate when reviewers casually throw in something like that with no explanation.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/news/i...?oneclick=true

bah i don't know if it matters all that much Ford use DIN holden ECE. But many times Fords have been put on the dyno and have shown to have the right amount of power that is quoted sometimes a little more. Some holdens have had the same and some have had less.