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30-05-2010, 09:32 PM | #181 | ||
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the reason why the american cars handled like boats could have something to do with the fact that their hero cars went around in a big circle
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30-05-2010, 09:38 PM | #182 | ||
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Sorry to say a C3 Corvette would have flogged a P3 everywhere.
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30-05-2010, 09:51 PM | #183 | |||
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I'd agree with that, 3.8l I6-twin 1.1/2 inch SU carbys-4spd man with Laycock-de Normanville o/d-lsd 3.77.
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30-05-2010, 09:52 PM | #184 | |||
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30-05-2010, 10:05 PM | #185 | |||
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maybe others would have beaten it, but who really cares. the phase 3 can hold it's own against most vehicles of it's time - and it came from a little island down south that no one in the detroit had heard of - a pretty awesome achievement, similar in vain to dick's sierras and fred's gtr's being the quickest in the world. but instead of being proud of it, a lot here wish to put it down |
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30-05-2010, 10:09 PM | #186 | |||
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30-05-2010, 10:24 PM | #187 | ||
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Nope.
I sill want one..P3 or P2
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30-05-2010, 10:38 PM | #188 | |||
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30-05-2010, 10:43 PM | #189 | ||
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ok heres something to stir the pot
1971 Hardie-Ferodo 500 Allan Moffat Ford XY Falcon GTHO Phase III 130 laps 6h 9m 49.5s 1972 Hardie-Ferodo 500 Peter Brock Holden LJ Torana GTR XU-1 130 laps 6h 0m 99.1s that crappy little car did the same 130 laps but in much less time how many breakdowns did the taxi have, or did holden cheat my neighbour had an xu-1 with gear drive and cam and who know what else... aside from the fact it was narrow i didnt think it went through corners that great, and the acceleration wasnt anything special |
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30-05-2010, 11:01 PM | #190 | ||||
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Do you like and respect the P3 at all? It certainly should not be compared in any way to a taxi, you know.
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30-05-2010, 11:06 PM | #191 | |||
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everyone calls my car a taxi sorry P3 lovers |
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30-05-2010, 11:17 PM | #192 | |||
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There was a copious amount of cars that would be faster, quicker, better, whatever produced around the world but at that time in history it has been recognized as the fastest 4 door then. What is there to argue about really? | [/url] |
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30-05-2010, 11:20 PM | #193 | ||||
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G6Et, I shouldn't have to explain how that is very unlike a cab too. Turbo engine, 6spd auto, amazing interior...body shape only is taxi similar. And a few obvious things.
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30-05-2010, 11:25 PM | #194 | ||
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we had an XR not a xr6/8 but an xr many years ago
but i've always been a massive fan of pre 72 valiants i respect the drivers of that era, not so much the cars anymore they have all be come so stupidly overpriced its insane. |
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30-05-2010, 11:27 PM | #195 | ||
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The Ph3 wasn't a bad drift car in its day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdBQNEE1PSc Lovin watchin them coming off the bowl onto the front straight Adds nothing of relevance to the thread but ....... |
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30-05-2010, 11:28 PM | #196 | |||
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What was the traffic like? The 99 seconds is a bit confusing, are you sure you have the number right? Either way 9 minutes in 6 hours is 0.25% not much of a variance..... |
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30-05-2010, 11:34 PM | #197 | |||
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Apparently the number is correct, but it is confusing. http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/bathurst_1972.htm What's funny is Moffs P3 was 3 seconds quicker in qualifying. But as it was wet he spun, and got a 2 minute penalty for starting the car while refuling.
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30-05-2010, 11:40 PM | #198 | ||
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brock also had a 1min penalty
i dunno metric time? lol drunk time keeper still dont rate the torana, actually cant stand them! who cares if they won i'd rather the 1200 datto |
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30-05-2010, 11:41 PM | #199 | ||||
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As you said flappist, 9mins in 6 hours is not much, any factors at the time could have made that discrepency.
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30-05-2010, 11:48 PM | #201 | ||||
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30-05-2010, 11:59 PM | #202 | ||
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Still then an even greater victory for a tiny torana to beat an also modified falcon
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31-05-2010, 12:03 AM | #203 | |||
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31-05-2010, 12:05 AM | #204 | |||
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Andrewg6e, if in 1971 the cars are not modifiable, and in 1972 they are, then what comparison can you make..?
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31-05-2010, 12:08 AM | #205 | ||
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A win is a win and yet even in modified form still did the same 130 laps in less time they were down a class and still performed better. Considerably slower top speed and acceleration. The handling option must have been ticked on the torana not the GT, and it was wet too. I might get me one of these miracle toranas.
As a side note I'd like to know how top speed was measured. As reported by mags of the time I'm sure it wasn't an accurate measurement of time over distance but just the speedometer. So intact 140 mph could have been 130 or even 150mph not disputing it's claim to be fastest etc. But my 1971 pacer dash once read past the end of it's measurment and it wasn't as fast of a car as a HO Last edited by andrewg6e; 31-05-2010 at 12:20 AM. |
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31-05-2010, 12:12 AM | #206 | |||
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I have consented to replying about the Bathurst races, but in all seriousness, the car in question, gtho p3, was the Fastest 4 door production car in the world IN 1971, and it was fastest due to it's TOP SPEED not due to it's Bathurst wins.
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31-05-2010, 12:17 AM | #207 | |||
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31-05-2010, 02:58 AM | #208 | |||
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11.61@124.8mph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fairlane_Thunderbolt yes i know its off topic but damn
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31-05-2010, 03:48 AM | #209 | ||
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7 pages to this thread and most of the posts are just repeat discussion of the other pages and very much a repeat of other threads when Phase 3 becomes the focus and turns into hotly debated topic.
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