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Old 26-11-2005, 05:36 PM   #1
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Default AFF National Dyno day graphs (D/U beware)

didnt want to clutter up the general discussion thread with big pictures. please everyone post their sheets.



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Old 26-11-2005, 05:38 PM   #2
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Old 26-11-2005, 05:46 PM   #3
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Sorry, we dont have a scanner, so this is the best we could do with the digicam.
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Old 26-11-2005, 05:59 PM   #4
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Old 26-11-2005, 06:32 PM   #5
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Old 26-11-2005, 07:08 PM   #6
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Well done Stampy. I think your ST170 result will give you "National Champion" in Class 1.... but I was closer than I thought I'd be! (75.3 fwkw in the Zetec)
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Old 26-11-2005, 07:31 PM   #7
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Well done Stampy. I think your ST170 result will give you "National Champion" in Class 1.... but I was closer than I thought I'd be! (75.3 fwkw in the Zetec)

(Approx 89 Front wheel KW for my ST170) i was a bit disapointed at first but it was very hot in the shed ,but i guess we all had the same problems , I would love to see 100 KW but i guess that will cost a fair bit.
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Old 26-11-2005, 08:04 PM   #8
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I thought the Dyno Dynamics dynos were supposed to automatically adjust for variations in temperature when in Shoot Out mode.

That's why they claim you can compare a Dyno Dynamic Shootout from one operator, or on different days, to the next.

Mind you, mine pulled 75.3 today, and 77.7 on another Dyno Dynamic dyno in Collingwood last week
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Old 26-11-2005, 09:33 PM   #9
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I don't think so. As Steve at RDP explained to me today the inlet temp (IT) and the ambient temp (AT) effect HP on different days. My last run at RDP was 315HP at 20 AT 18 IT and today 309HP at 26 AT and 34 IT. As the inlet temp was hotter, the HP was lower.
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Old 26-11-2005, 10:04 PM   #10
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I don't think so. As Steve at RDP explained to me today the inlet temp (IT) and the ambient temp (AT) effect HP on different days. My last run at RDP was 315HP at 20 AT 18 IT and today 309HP at 26 AT and 34 IT. As the inlet temp was hotter, the HP was lower.
When I did my 410hp run the inlet was 67 degrees and the room was 31.... last dyno day when I turned 325 it was 53IT and 23RT. The XY really suffers on intake temps on a dyno because the bonnet goes up and suddenly the shaker is being fed hot air off the radiator...

I'll try to post my sheet tomorrow or monday
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Old 26-11-2005, 10:13 PM   #11
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"Atmospheric conditions have an enormous effect on engine power. An engine will invariably make more power on a cold day than a hot day. In order to standardise power measurement, you need to correct for atmospheric conditions. ShootOut mode locks parameters within Dyno Dynamics Atmospheric2 (ATMC2) so that the operator cannot disable or change them. The instrumentation system adjusts (corrects) power measurements for a benchmark ‘standard’ day. ATMC2 ensures that the results are statistically adjusted for cold or hot day tests The test conditions are printed out on the graph for added validation
when comparing two power graphs. "


From http://www.dyno.com.au/shootout.htm


In Melbourne, I don't think they were measuring intake temp, just ambient temp, as there were no sensors being put into the air intakes (I have had a couple of dynos done previously on a Dyno Dynamics dyno in shootout mode and a sensor is placed in the intake)

The whole idea of Shootout mode is that any two graphs from different operators can be compared. That's why I don't understand why the suggestion that the different conditions were effecting the results. Dyno Dynamics shootout is supposed to statistically adjust the results.

No issues or complaints though. A terrific day, well organised
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Old 26-11-2005, 10:24 PM   #12
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Well it seems all charts show shoot out mode but in QLD we most definitely used intake and air temp.
All together a great day no complaints. Just enhancements to come.
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Old 26-11-2005, 10:31 PM   #13
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Unfortunately you can't believe what manufactures write about the product 100%.

The temp does make a difference. And I don't see the compensaton working.

Today in NSW I ran a 139rwkw vs 144rwkw on the same dyno same mods different fuel only.

The 144rwkw run was at Pressure 101 Humidity 41% Temp 19 degress.

Today The 139rwkw run was at Pressure 100 Humidity 49% Temp 29 degress.

Am I surprised no!
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Old 26-11-2005, 10:56 PM   #14
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I'm pretty happy with that result.
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Old 26-11-2005, 11:16 PM   #15
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Sorry for the poor quality pic, i went with no expectations ( this time ), and i suppose am really new at interpreting this data but i will learn as i go.

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Old 26-11-2005, 11:28 PM   #16
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Shame we cant break it down more. Id love to see how much those GT stripes gained you.
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Old 27-11-2005, 09:45 AM   #17
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A bit of ridicule no doubt?
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Old 27-11-2005, 10:14 AM   #18
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Id love to see how much those GT stripes gained you.
I'll have to go again once the stripes are back on my beast...... see what they're worth.
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Old 27-11-2005, 10:42 AM   #19
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Shame we cant break it down more. Id love to see how much those GT stripes gained you.
well considering it was run with the aircon on (i cant believe i forgot to turn it off) and its only got 74kw at the fly, i guess they must be at least another 10kw
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Old 27-11-2005, 01:07 PM   #20
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Old 27-11-2005, 03:11 PM   #21
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Heres mine
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The exhuast is a stock vy ss hence a lower number than what i was expecting...but the misses likes the car quiet and she drives it half the time so im under the thumb :

Next is an OTRCAI and that should see it over 200.
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Old 27-11-2005, 03:24 PM   #22
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Here's mine:
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Old 27-11-2005, 03:32 PM   #23
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I'll be posting mine tomorrow. Gotta get off the Net, the phone needs using.
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Old 28-11-2005, 07:19 AM   #24
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Old 28-11-2005, 09:02 AM   #25
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Sorry, here's the pic....
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:57 AM   #27
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"Bent Falcon" :hihi:
At least I have a sense of humour about it all :P
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Kinda poor for a forced induction V8, but suprisingly this is about right. Stock motor (including standard EF V8 exhaust manifold), powerdyne blower - appears to be running at about 7psi.

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