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Old 13-12-2013, 10:35 PM   #61
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Default Re: What power does a V8 Supercar make on a chassis dyno

Hi CAT600.

I believe that the engine pictured below is a Glen Seton motor. Would you have any idea as to what time frame this type of engine would have been used?

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Old 13-12-2013, 11:24 PM   #62
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Hi CAT600.

I believe that the engine pictured below is a Glen Seton motor. Would you have any idea as to what time frame this type of engine would have been used?

Cheers

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Pre JSR thats for sure, by 1999 or 2000 pretty much everyone had gone to injectors mounted externally to the trumpets (so the injector was mounted on a rail with the pintle end pointing down the trumpet) and Carbon Fibre trumpets that were seated from behind by the airbox itself... not good if there was a backfire so I imagine thats one of Bo's engines?

The runner length appears longer but with less taper than I recall on our manifold (when the Cat cars engines were being built by Steve Renshaw at PAE) which was similar to that in that the injectors were mounted at the flange face post-throttle... and that was old hat then anyway, we were on a budget!

I remember when we were in the dyno cell and PAE's engine was making around 570 but would keep producing to 8000rpm... I (all of 19 or so at the time I think) suggested to Steve to advance the cam timing to bring the powerband down (the cam was to big but my playing around on Windsor's had already taught me this would work in the meantime) and he adjusted the Danny Bee 4 degrees, it made peak around 7800 so he checked PTV and went another 4 degrees and it pickup up to low 590's (this was the sprint engine in the EL) and even though it was down compared to the rest of the field and the car was heavier as it was not a delete shell that little EL went to the GP in 1999 and finished 4th, 5th and 4th before DNF'ing in the last race of the support series.

Anyway I digress. Heads are hard to pick we never got to play with C3H or later D3s so im guessing they are some C3 castings.

Are you thinking of buying this mate?... would be pretty cool/nostalgic

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Old 13-12-2013, 11:48 PM   #63
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I have the injection and the Dizzy pictured.

I recently found this page about the engine. http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/aust...ford-p0rn.html

I would greatly appreciate some advice... Is there any chance that I could call you?

BTW, have you ever heard of a guy name Gary Gun?

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Old 13-12-2013, 11:51 PM   #64
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Current engines are making around 485kw less 20% just under 400rwkw.

Not bad for n/a 5.0lt with restriction's.

Seen a clip on a Stone brothers engine making 620hp
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Old 14-12-2013, 12:11 AM   #65
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I have the injection and the Dizzy pictured.

I recently found this page about the engine. http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/aust...ford-p0rn.html

I would greatly appreciate some advice... Is there any chance that I could call you?

BTW, have you ever heard of a guy name Gary Gun?
Not of the top of my head.

Yeah mate PM me your number but if its ok it would be when I get home from work at the end of next week?... I work away and getting the phone for any more than 10-15 minutes is hard offshore.

I think they would make a little more than 400rwkw but thats just my belief, now they are on E85 they are reported to make 680hp which is a touch over 500kw, and I would not expect them to lose more than 70kw through the driveline especially with the current drivetrains being a bit better designed than the old ones....

Maybe Grum can shed some light if hes reading...

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Old 14-12-2013, 12:01 PM   #66
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that injection with trumpets is sexy as hell
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